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    #21
    Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
    I was actually reading about McGinty at the Library this past week, I'm amazed anybody even brought him up actually. Lightweights have never been extremely popular, and especially not back in the era he fought in.

    His record was 127-11-9 (98 KO's) and he was born in 1883. He was fighting black fighters long before they wer eintegrated into the sport, and he caught a lot of hell for doing it. He was quoted once saying "fighters are fighters, no matter the color" which became his catchphrase.

    Because of his decision to fight anybody, even blacks, history has not been very kind to him. I found some articles written by Bert Sugar on him, byt there were only 2. I'll try to link them up later. I find it amazing even Bert hardly ever mentions him in his ATG lists, or any other time.

    It's almost as if history itself has tried to erase his legacy.
    This is the first time that I've seen Tucan mentioned on here. It's crazy-- because it shows how much these people rely on boxrec. Most of his fights with blacks were unsanctioned, so Idk if his record is even up there at all. But he was definitely a "forgotten but great" fighter.

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      #22
      Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
      It's dumb mother****ers like you two that allow your ignorance to erase the memory of a fighter like McGinty. He was revolutionary, he fought against black people when black people weren't allowed to fight legally. He was the first known public figure in his Country to openly voice the opinion that blacks were equal, as fighters and as people.

      You guys make me ****ing sick.
      your gonna be ok.... right?

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        #23
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
        your gonna be ok.... right?
        Yeah because only the intelligent guys remember Tucan anyway. Which is why I didn't expect you to.

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          #24
          Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
          Yeah because only the intelligent guys remember Tucan anyway. Which is why I didn't expect you to.
          good one.......

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            #25
            Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
            Yeah because only the intelligent guys remember Tucan anyway. Which is why I didn't expect you to.
            I don't think that's being fair; most people will not remember him- I mean, how much coverage does he get? My dad was the one who clued me in on the guy- so I was lucky.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Kaynan View Post
              I don't think that's being fair; most people will not remember him- I mean, how much coverage does he get? My dad was the one who clued me in on the guy- so I was lucky.
              co-sign....

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                #27
                Originally posted by Kaynan View Post
                I don't think that's being fair; most people will not remember him- I mean, how much coverage does he get? My dad was the one who clued me in on the guy- so I was lucky.
                I guess that's true. I just get pissed sometimes (noteably not always justified) because of how people have tried to erase his legacy. It's ****ing sad, it's not as tragic as boxing related deaths or anything but the man was well ahead of his era. He had an amazing record, fought the best fighters out there (even though at the time blacks were considered to be valued less) and gets no credit.

                It's not his fault that he didn't know, I just wish more people did know.

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                  #28
                  I'm not sure if you guys are overrating him or not... I've seen ONE piece of footage on him, and it's so hard to tell.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by !! Anorak View Post
                    I'm not sure if you guys are overrating him or not... I've seen ONE piece of footage on him, and it's so hard to tell.
                    Where did you see the footage? I need to see it. I had no idea footage of his fights even existed, it's difficult as hell to even find pictures of the guy. All the major players in the sport have blacklisted him (boxrec, ring magazine, etc...).

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
                      I guess that's true. I just get pissed sometimes (noteably not always justified) because of how people have tried to erase his legacy. It's ****ing sad, it's not as tragic as boxing related deaths or anything but the man was well ahead of his era. He had an amazing record, fought the best fighters out there (even though at the time blacks were considered to be valued less) and gets no credit.

                      It's not his fault that he didn't know, I just wish more people did know.
                      so what your really trying to say is you apologize.... lol its all good im sure he was a great fighter it was just..... 80+ years ago

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