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    #11
    Originally posted by McGoorty View Post
    They were great days before the banning of 15 round fights.. which was a disaster I believe the sport will never get over.. 12 rounds just DOES NOT CUT THE MUSTARD.. But even in the old days of one champion there were usually two at least recognised as such in the MW's and downwards, many held the Australian version ( in the early 1900's )... and some of the title holders were far more legitimate than the so called official champions. the MW division especially where even to this day idiots will say "oh but he was never world champion"... which is pathetic and shows total misunderstanding of what happened. I love the Yanks and I have lots of American friends but jesus in boxing there was massive discrimination towards Australian, British.. South Americans... there seemed to be a belief that only America and Americans counted, especially back in those days. McCoy was about as legitimate a unanimous Champ as Primo Carnera was a Willie Pep lookalike... Boxing history needs an overhaul, and badly... before its too late. Truthfully I really fear for the continued existence of this sport in the long run... It really looks a bit like Ringling Bros. Circus now.
    The continued existence in the US maybe. What about in Australia? A guy I know from the UK says boxing is still pretty popular there and I keep hearing about how it's still a big sport in places like Spain, Mexico, Puerto Rico, The Philippines and Germany, where the Klitschkos sell out 100,000 seat soccer stadiums. So yeah it's a fringe sport in the US and maybe other places but, as Larry Merchant once said "boxing isn't dead and it doesn't need someone to save it" and I agree. I just wish male American boxers did better in the Olympics these days.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
      The continued existence in the US maybe. What about in Australia? A guy I know from the UK says boxing is still pretty popular there and I keep hearing about how it's still a big sport in places like Spain, Mexico, Puerto Rico, The Philippines and Germany, where the Klitschkos sell out 100,000 seat soccer stadiums. So yeah it's a fringe sport in the US and maybe other places but, as Larry Merchant once said "boxing isn't dead and it doesn't need someone to save it" and I agree. I just wish male American boxers did better in the Olympics these days.
      When did either Klit ever sell out a 100,000 sear stadium? I think Wlad-Chageav was the biggest at 60,000. Impressive, but not 100k impressive.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
        The continued existence in the US maybe. What about in Australia? A guy I know from the UK says boxing is still pretty popular there and I keep hearing about how it's still a big sport in places like Spain, Mexico, Puerto Rico, The Philippines and Germany, where the Klitschkos sell out 100,000 seat soccer stadiums. So yeah it's a fringe sport in the US and maybe other places but, as Larry Merchant once said "boxing isn't dead and it doesn't need someone to save it" and I agree. I just wish male American boxers did better in the Olympics these days.
        People being saying Boxing is dead for a 100 years, Boxing will Never die.

        It has highs and lows sure but something so Primal and instinctive will never die

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          #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          When did either Klit ever sell out a 100,000 sear stadium? I think Wlad-Chageav was the biggest at 60,000. Impressive, but not 100k impressive.
          german soccer stadiums don't have so many seats. 60.000 seats is pretty much the maximum.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            When did either Klit ever sell out a 100,000 sear stadium? I think Wlad-Chageav was the biggest at 60,000. Impressive, but not 100k impressive.
            That was it then 60k, but I know for sure they do very well in Germany because most of their fights are there these days and are usually filled to capacity. Point is boxing wouldn't sell those many tickets if it were actually dead as some claim or dying. It's a fringe sport in the US, but is still big in other countries.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
              The continued existence in the US maybe. What about in Australia? A guy I know from the UK says boxing is still pretty popular there and I keep hearing about how it's still a big sport in places like Spain, Mexico, Puerto Rico, The Philippines and Germany, where the Klitschkos sell out 100,000 seat soccer stadiums. So yeah it's a fringe sport in the US and maybe other places but, as Larry Merchant once said "boxing isn't dead and it doesn't need someone to save it" and I agree. I just wish male American boxers did better in the Olympics these days.
              Oh boxing will always exist it's just that the title belt situation has been a serious problem since the early 80's and steadily gets worse and what hurts is that it's so hard to gauge just how good most fighters are in this climate. As for Australia it will always have a strong core following but the numbers competing here are dwarfed by those numbers of active fighters in the year 1950 when there was nearly 400 professional active fighters in the welterweight division alone and that's probably the total number in all divisions combined today maybe more. I got that stat from a 1950 Aussie boxing magazine. The Mundine circus is winding down, now we might be able to get behind serious fighters again, a bloke like Daniel Geale is just the ticket.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
                All of them at the top level probably.

                Mayweather, Marquez, Pacquiao, Wlad, Ward etc etc could all adjust their styles to fight like that. People from the past didn't have some inherent special toughness.

                Particularly if quite a lot of fights were stay busy, newspaper decided 4-8 rounders that just substituted for training essentially as Greb etc did.
                Exactly, it's mostly due to differing circumstances that fighters today don't have that schedule, it's all about context, I think basically all the top fighters today could do that if they had to.

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