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    #21
    Originally posted by butterfly1964
    yeah, that was pretty dumb, especially the power part.
    no kidding. lamotta had decent power, but he had one of the weakest ko percentage i've seen from the top-flight boxers of the past 70+ years.

    another boxing MYTH.

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      #22
      No, I'm not kidding.

      1. Marvin Hagler
      2. Carlos Monzon
      3. Harry Greb
      4. Sugar Ray Robinson
      5. Mickey Walker
      6. Tony Zale
      7. Stanley Ketchel
      8. Bernard Hopkins
      9. Gene Fullmer
      10. **** Tiger

      I rank those guys above Lamotta. He is my number 11. It isnt a perfected list, and im sure i could fit jake in... but thats it at the moment.

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        #23
        Ray Robinson
        Harry Greb
        Henry Armstrong
        Sam Langford
        Willie Pep
        Ezzard Charles
        Mickey Walker
        Ray Leonard
        Roberto Duran
        Joe Gans

        After the first four this list is always changing.

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          #24
          1. Sugar Ray Robinson
          2. Henry Armstrong
          3. Muhammad Ali
          4. Joe Louis
          5. Roberto Duran
          6. Willie Pep
          7. Ray Leonard
          8. Pernell Whitaker
          9. Ezzard Charles
          10. Archie Moore

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            #25
            Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00 View Post
            your joking right?
            jake lamatta i don't really have him figured out p4p but he's definitely a top 10 middle weight. He had the power of a Hw and the chin of a hw. The only person that ever really beat him bad was SRR and He beat SRR once (out of 9 ) but the fact is he could take a beating and to the best of my knowledge he was never knocked out. Most of his losses were SD's, others were UD's and the least he got were TKO's.

            I think of him as a hw trapped in a Middleweights body.
            umm okay not a great post mate no offence but full of errors

            jake was never a big puncher, even though KO % dont tell the full story you can still see from that and from footage he was never a big puncher

            you're right about his chin though, that was pretty freakish

            and jake was beaten and outclassed by plenty of other guys ( i believe he had 19 losses) besides SRR, and he fought him 6 times, not 9

            and he could do a lot more than "take a beating" ,he was a clever fighter in his own right and was very aware in the ring

            i dont see how he was a HW trapped in a MW body

            that makes no sense really

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              #26
              Originally posted by hellfire508 View Post
              . I respect you having your opinion and all mate, but seriously, that list is pretty bad. It's great that you're having a go, but Jake Lamotta? I can't even get him into my top 10 middleweights, let alont P4P. What about Hagler and Monzon and middleweight? Aaron Pryor? Nigel Benn? PBF? What about guys like Gans, Greb, Benny Leonard, Henry Armstrong (especially), Pernell Whitaker, Willie Pep, Eder Jofre etc.

              Maybe you haven't seen these guys fight (we all haven't seen Greb), which is fair enough, but my advice to you: If you wanna study boxing and get right into it, research some of the guys I mentioned. Their records are amazing.
              I agree about LaMotta. Tough as he was, he tends to be a bit overrated because he had a great film made about his life.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Kid McCoy View Post
                I agree about LaMotta. Tough as he was, he tends to be a bit overrated because he had a great film made about his life.
                His punching power is overrated but skill-wise he is actually a little underrated.

                The film depicts LaMotta as a huge puncher with a great chin and no skill.

                The amount of LaMotta's losses drop his all time MW ranking but shouldn't put him out of consideration completely, he had a resume full of great names.

                LaMotta doesn't have any business in a top 20 p4p list however.

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                  #28
                  lamotta didn't have power but he had strength which he could bully you around with

                  i hate how most people rate lamotta sheerly for chin he had a good jab,excellent body puncher,rolled with his punches really well,underrated handspeed,etc

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                    #29
                    10 Greatest boxers

                    10 Greatest Fighters of all-time

                    1. Muhammad Ali
                    2. Ray Robinson
                    3. Henry Armstrong
                    4. Joe Louis
                    5. Jack Johnson
                    6. Rocky Marciano
                    7. Ray Leonard
                    8. Aaron Pryor
                    9. Floyd Mayweather
                    10. Alexis Arguello

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hemichromis View Post
                      i've finally decided my list for this week anyway! lol

                      1. george foreman
                      2. ali
                      3. joe louis
                      4. joe frazier
                      5. mike tyson
                      6. lennox lewis
                      7. evander holyfield
                      8. larry holmes
                      9. floyd patterson
                      10. jack dempsey

                      honourable mentions go to baer liston and marciano
                      This is my reply to one of the ******est lists I've ever seen......... I mean HW's ONLY.... Her's my reply list,... no apologies given. ----------------------------------------------------------GREATEST P4P ALL-TIME BEST & GREATEST TOP 10. ---------------- #1. BOB MIROVIC. ---------------------------- #2. DEAN WATERS. ----------------------------- #3. Lenny Zappavigna. ------------------------- #4. Satoshi Shingaki. ------------------ #5. Marvin Hart. ----------------- #6. Obelix The Gaul. ---------------------- #7. Antwun Echolls. --------------------- #8. Bob Fitzsimmons IV. --------------------- #9. Don Bronco Johnson. --------------- #10. New Zealand Young Kid Dixie Smith O'Brien

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