Comments Thread For: Frank Warren: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora is next if no Usyk undisputed rematch

[Boxing 112]

IBF yet to confirm this but will be a joke if Chisora was mandatory. Initially Bakole vs Ajagba was meant to be IBF final eliminator, won't be anymore as Bakole lost that chance when he fought Parker.

Chisora vs Wallin at that point was 8th vs 10th in their rankings. So how tf does winner of that become mandatory and how has that win got Chisora a place now at No2 in their rankings.

[Joseph]

Quack quack, Danny Boy.

[landotter]

Chisora is kind of a hero of mine... the guy has fought nearly every name of this era. But.... he is a MANDATORY? Like... how? Why?

I mean I want Usyk-Parker, so I am fine with DuBois going off in another direction and making that easier, but Chisora??? Sometimes boxing still surprises me, which say a ton about how gullible and naive I still am in my 50's and that is on me.

[Bob]

So for now it looks like Usyk Parker, Dubois Chisora & Kabayel against top 10 name in Germany in the summer.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wow, just wow, if Chisora gets IBF title fight for his retirement fight.

It is not unlikely, because Dubois and Chisora are both now with Warren.

[PRINCEKOOL]

People may mock Derek Chisora, and yes? He is a fighter way outside of his peak 'But regardless, Chisora has never been a front runner like Daniel Dubois has at top level. If Derek Chisora has lost a fight, it has never been due to him disappearing in a fight and completely eroding in front of his opponents due to fatigue'.

Every time Daniel Dubois has lost 'It has been due to him as a fighter being a front runner. Dubois was done by the middle rounds vs Joe Joyce and Oleksandr Uysk. Yes Dubois showed courage to battle on with an injury vs Joe Joyce, but regardless? Joe Joyce systematically beat him up with his jab, and as the rounds progressed Dubois faded back to black'.

Note: And I am convinced that? Even during his best ever performance vs Anthony Joshua, the momentum in that fight was moving back towards Joshua. All the signs were there in that fight, in round 5 Anthony Joshua went from landing on average 40% of his punches, to over 80% of his punches during round 5. Even after being decked in round 1, the facts of that fight are? Anthony Joshua from the very moment he rose up off the canvas was slowly but surely, minute by minute fighting his way back into the fight. Before he amplified Dubois's punching power, by firstly making a technical mistake i.e. throwing an uppercut while wading forward with his guard completely down. This unforced error, amplified the power of Daniel Dubois which eventually lead to him then being knocked out'.

In my opinion, if it was not for Anthony Joshua uncharacteristically making technical mistakes, and a high frequency of unforced errors 'Daniel Dubois would have been beaten down systematically over the distance'.

I think a peak Derek Chisora definitively would have had a chance of beating Daniel Dubois 'I am not buying into Daniel Dubois being a Super Elite Power puncher. Dubois no doubt hits with serious power, but? He was only able to stop Anthony Joshua, due to him amplifying his power by wading into the punch'. Up until that point in the fight, Joshua appeared to be increasing his invulnerability to Dubois's physical attacks. Daniel Dubois was hurting Joshua, but round by round Dubois's power seemed to have less of an effect on Joshua'.

If this fight between Derek Chisora and Daniel Dubois is made 'Dubois would be a favourite to win. But stylistically Derek Chisora could potentially make the fight action very difficult. If Chisora could just endure a great training camp, you never know? After 5 to 6 rounds against a solid Heavyweight fighter Daniel Dubois in my opinion is a vulnerable fighter'.

I have stated this many times before, Daniel Dubois is a aggressive and game fighter 'His story and rise to becoming the IBF World Heavyweight Champion is inspiring. But a fighter like Daniel Dubois is either going to win in spectacular fashion or lose in spectacular fashion, it is only a matter of time'.

Dubois's entire game relies on his brute strength, and power 'Which is great. But skill for skill he is not a very sophisticated fighter, and I think his endurance levels are worst than Tyson Fury's and Anthony Joshua's. The Daniel Dubois fight vs Oleksandr Uysk I fight displayed this, by rounds 5 to 6 even while weighing in at 233 pounds which suggested tactically he had prepared for speed and endurance. Daniel Dubois was still done by round 5 to 6 vs Oleksandr Uysk I, the trajectory of the fight was very clear soon as the middle rounds approached'.

To conclude: I know certain folk in the boxing community, are kind of buying into the narrative and media stereotypes that Daniel Dubois is some sort of monster destroyer 'I am not buying into it. Because there are details in the action of fights. Daniel Dubois has by in no way, proven to me? That at top level he is not a front runner'.

If Daniel Dubois fights Anthony Joshua in a rematch next 'I would still back Joshua to systematically smash him up. If Joshua does not make all of those uncharacteristic unforced errors and technical mistakes, he is most likely not being decked or knocked off his game. And in that style of action, Dubois would get systematically beaten down over the distance. Anthony Joshua skill for skill has the ability to do this, but he has to still go out there and prove it to the masses'.

And in regards to Derek Chisora vs Daniel Dubois 'I am being very serious, if Dubois struggles to hurt Chisora. Or his attacks are not having the dramatic affect on Chisora . And Derek Chisora is still in fight after 5 to 6 rounds. If that style of fight develops, Daniel Dubois may encounter a extremely difficult fight. The only reason why I am being slightly modest in Chisora chances. Is because Chisora is a fighter miles outside of is peak, but he still has the ability to be a solid Heavyweight fighter' etc.

[joe strong]

Wow, just wow, if Chisora gets IBF title fight for his retirement fight.

It is not unlikely, because Dubois and Chisora are both now with Warren.

Chisora beat Washington, Joyce & Wallin why shouldn't he be given another shot? Joshua beat Franklin, Helenius & Wallin to get his shot. Parker beat Wilder, Zhang & Bakole & still has to wait. Kabayel beat Makhmudov, Sanchez & Zhang yet he will have to wait too. Dubois/Chisora is ok but so many better fights but won't deny I'm a big Chisora fan & would be cheering for him to beat DDD...

[joe strong]

So for now it looks like Usyk Parker, Dubois Chisora & Kabayel against top 10 name in Germany in the summer.

Kabayel called out Joshua so he can get paid! Joshua would be ****** not to take it. It's his best path back into the title picture since Kabayel is the WBC interim champion.

[SUBZER0ED]

Chisora is kind of a hero of mine... the guy has fought nearly every name of this era. But.... he is a MANDATORY? Like... how? Why?

I mean I want Usyk-Parker, so I am fine with DuBois going off in another direction and making that easier, but Chisora??? Sometimes boxing still surprises me, which say a ton about how gullible and naive I still am in my 50's and that is on me.

I believe that Del Boy is an old, beloved warrior that Warren wants to help go out with a bang of a fight. Otherwise, there's just no way that he'd be the mandatory IBF challenger.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Chisora beat Washington, Joyce & Wallin why shouldn't he be given another shot? Joshua beat Franklin, Helenius & Wallin to get his shot. Parker beat Wilder, Zhang & Bakole & still has to wait. Kabayel beat Makhmudov, Sanchez & Zhang yet he will have to wait too. Dubois/Chisora is ok but so many better fights but won't deny I'm a big Chisora fan & would be cheering for him to beat DDD...

Yes, you have a point. If Usyk fights Parker or Kabayel, we shouldn`t realy complain on DDD fighting Chisora.