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    Adding COMING FORWARD to the Scoring Criteria

    lot of boxing fans believe merely COMING FORWARD = scoring points

    in their minds COMING FORWARD overrules the most valuable points scorer clean punching

    COMING FORWARD is unofficially favored to the point where wide fights are close according to these people. sometimes they'll even have the cleaner punching losing to COMING FORWARD
    1. Clean punching
    2. Effective aggression
    3. Ring generalship
    4. Defense
    5. Coming Forward
    Last edited by SouthpawRight; 05-18-2025, 03:09 PM.

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    Coming forward often gets tied to ring generalship, because the guy who is coming forward, rightly or wrongly, is seen as the guy driving the action more than the guy who spends most of the time trying to disengage or tie up. It's actually hard (and athletically challenging) to be an effective outside fighter. In my opinion, however, if the fighter isn't willing to go for the finish when they create opportunities on the outside, they don't deserve ring generalship credit. But if they do, they deserve a lot more credit, especially on the B-side.
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      #3
      coming forward may be seen as aggression but it has to be effective coming forward in that case

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        #4
        Fans seem to add it selectively to fit the narrative they want when their man crush is walking into punches, following, and missing badly.

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          #5
          I think in prizefighting, extra credit should be given to the one trying to make the fight if their opponent is fighting negatively. They’re taking risks, and putting themselves in danger to put on an entertaining fight for the viewers, which is what is basically the foundation of the professional side of the sport.

          I hate spending money and time watching a PPV just to see someone try to survive from the starting bell. If I know it’s going to be like that then i’ll just do something else.

          There’s still great movers and counter punchers who give entertaining fights.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
            Fans seem to add it selectively to fit the narrative they want when their man crush is walking into punches, following, and missing badly.
            coming forward is a useful metric when it’s swing round

            but rounds that could go either way are rare

            I found focus hard and you’ll identify who was the cleaner puncher in that round

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              #7
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
              coming forward is a useful metric when it’s swing round

              but rounds that could go either way are rare

              I found focus hard and you’ll identify who was the cleaner puncher in that round
              Yes, that is what you're supposed to do, its in the ABC rules "the effect of the punch". Its why boxing favors harder punchers and fighters who are durable punching bags so if you have a glass chin and do the chicken dance every time you get hit or have pillow fists then go play tennis or something.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                Fans seem to add it selectively to fit the narrative they want when their man crush is walking into punches, following, and missing badly.
                See Chisora. People love over hyping him cause he comes forward but misses a lot and a lot are just wild swings. They still say that "he gave Usyk his hardest fight" no he didn't he won 3 rounds at best maybe
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

                  See Chisora. People love over hyping him cause he comes forward but misses a lot and a lot are just wild swings. They still say that "he gave Usyk his hardest fight" no he didn't he won 3 rounds at best maybe
                  Two things about that

                  One is Chisora was supposed to be an easy fight for Usyk so the fact he didn't get blown out surprised people, the other is that Usyk legitimately didn't have many answers for Chisoras swarming tactics early and only got going once chisora started gassing and Usyk got space.

                  I'd say there was only one point where Usyk buzzed chisora a bit, but the fight wasn't easy for Usyk and Usyk has said since that chisora hit him harder than AJ or Fury did and he felt like he was being clubbed with a baseball bat.

                  Messy, sloppy fighters often give master boxers issues, sakio bika was another example of this, guys who do everything wrong and have weird awkward styles.
                  Last edited by NihonJim; 05-18-2025, 09:27 PM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post

                    Yes, that is what you're supposed to do, its in the ABC rules "the effect of the punch". Its why boxing favors harder punchers and fighters who are durable punching bags so if you have a glass chin and do the chicken dance every time you get hit or have pillow fists then go play tennis or something.
                    this is how Bivol fumbled 2 roundz in the first fight with Artur

                    he overreacted whenever something landed backpedaling for 30 seconds to prevent it from happening again

                    it made everyone think he was hurt

                    Turns out Bivol is iron chin hero 8.5/10 beard

                    Until fight 2 I was confused when Bivol said his mistake in fight 1 was trying to be too perfect. language barrier too much time focused on not getting hit rather than landing himself

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