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He's had 2 fights at 175 and fought quality guys like gvodzk and morrell. Should have already fought Smith? Smith wasn't relevant until now. Revisionist history. If he fought him before he would just be a cherry pick I'm sure and he should hsvd fought some other guy...JakeTheBoxer likes this.
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If people keep overrating him and talking about how he's so great then I hsve to prove otherwise. It's also not specific to wilder. His career is done but many fighters hsve similarly manufactured careers and we should learn from the past so we don't get tricked again, and when I say we I mean other...El_Mero likes this.
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Wilder Joshua power and chin comparison
Wilder has a 25% ko ratio agaisnt ring ranked fighters 2 out of 8.
Joshua has a 50% ko ratio against ring ranked fighters. 6 out of 12.
Wilder has been knocked out in 3 of these 8 fights 37.5%.
Joshua has been knocked out in 2 of these 12 fights 16.5%.
...Last edited by daggum; 05-17-2025, 01:50 PM.El_Mero likes this.
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There are definitely overrated guys like tank, Wilder broner etc...Haney clearly lost to Loma but he's still a good fighter. Loma lost to Lopez but he's still a good fighter. Lopez lost to kambosos but he's still a good fighter. Kambosos...is actually not good. It happens. People talk like innoue is...Last edited by daggum; 05-17-2025, 01:36 PM.
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No he was not. Any evidence of that? Oh yeah you simply made it up. Plenty of pbc guys fought away from showtime. Those that didn't pretended like they couldn't.
Just like wilders 50 million offer was fake.there was no contract. He refused to send one because it was a bluff for pr purposes.There...El_Mero likes this.
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If Dubois beats usyk that knocks usyk down and wilder becomes the best of his era. New rankings will be...
1. Wilder
2. Usyk
3. Fury
4. Joshua
5. Ortiz
Wilder will be watching with bated breathLast edited by daggum; 05-16-2025, 06:26 AM.
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In fairness though starling was throwing after the bell too and got slept...TheIronMike likes this.
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Ugas beat pac coming off a win over Thurman. Isn't this thread talking about how good Thurman was?
Ugas also should have gotten tbe decision over porter. he was clearly one of the best fighters in the Division.
Brook lost a fight not even in his division. Think you are emphasizing...
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Brook never lost at 147. He had no chance against ggg. Brook was still the top guy at 147. That was his weight division. Spence was only about-150 against brook. Yes he probably would have been underdog if he fought pre ggg brook but that was priced in. In other words a post ggg brook is still a tough...Last edited by daggum; 05-16-2025, 05:54 AM.
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Spence has a much better resume don't know what you are talking about. He has brook and ugas. Danny Garcia did what at ww?...SteveM likes this.
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Barrios beat ugas but ugas was coming off a ko loss and hadn't fought in a year and a half. Besides that he has nothing on his resume. Lost to tank although drained, robbery vs akhmedov. Dubious fight vs ramos. Those 2 guys aren't even ring ranked fighters so barrios isn't even top 10 level in reality....Last edited by daggum; 05-15-2025, 02:41 PM.
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Wilder ko percentage agaisnt top 10 opponents is 25 percent so no it's not safe to say. He was fed stiffs. Also Joshua will be allowed to punch wilder in this fight right? Joshua much higher ko percentage in real fights than Wilder and wilder not the best chin or defense. Seems far more likely Joshua...Last edited by daggum; 05-15-2025, 02:22 PM.
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They provided nothing and you know it. They literally said send the contract and wilder said no lol. That's called calling someone's bluff. Its not an actual offer if it's not real. It's publicity. Guess you fell for it?
Wilder turned down an actual 100 million dollar contract placed at...Last edited by daggum; 05-15-2025, 02:21 PM.crimsonfalcon07 likes this.
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From a marketing perspective sure. Wilder probably isn't even top 10 in his era 2015-now. I can probably name 10 people with better resumes just off tbe top of my head: Ruiz Jr, Dubois, Parker, Whyte, joyce, Zhang, Fury, usyk, Joshua. Kabayel. Wlad and povetkin are much better but most their accomplishments...Last edited by daggum; 05-15-2025, 01:48 PM.
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Wilder won bronze in 2008. Joshua gold in 2012 and if you watched those fights Joshua was gifted the gold. He wasn't good.
Even though Joshua wasn't very good they still took chances. Wilder they didn't want to take any chances even when he was champ for years they matched him with pbc...
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Wilder got his bluff called pretty simple. There was no real offer is what people should say but they are fans with agendas so they leave out the part where wikder ran away from his own offer! Which obviously means it wasn't real. Joshua's 100 million offer on the other hand was very real and wilder...Last edited by daggum; 05-15-2025, 05:56 AM.
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Look at how wikder constantly fell over windmilling punches agaisnt complete bums. If you don't actually watch the fights wlyou wouldnt see that skill...
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