Best Heavyweight Jabbers?

[Dynamite Kid]

This topic is about "Who had the best jab" NOT who won Holmes v Williams fight, no-one is calling Holmes heart into question, what i was saying in my previous post was Holmes came up short with his jab when he fought 3 guys (Williams, Smith, Spinks) who all beat him to the jab, Williams closed Holmes eye with his jab, its not a case of Holmes was on the slide, its a case of Who had the best Jab.. The Topic poll has Muhammad Ali in it yet if it said Cassius Clay and not Muhammad Ali then there could only be one winner IMO...a seperate thread on Holmes vs Williams would be interesting

When i bring up Holmes heart im not taking a shot at you im just bringing it up to reminisce with JAB about what big heart he had.

The only thing i took issue with is when you said Holmes was being beaten to a pulp because that did not happen. I agree that he was outjabbed at time but i already said that.

When you are 35/36 you can start to lose reflexes, timing, do you really think Michael Spinks would of beaten Larry Holmes in his prime?

Well look at it like this, Holmes did a better job of controlling Norton with his jab than Ali did.

[sonnyboyx2]

When i bring up Holmes heart im not taking a shot at you im just bringing it up to reminisce with JAB about what big heart he had.

The only thing i took issue with is when you said Holmes was being beaten to a pulp because that did not happen. I agree that he was outjabbed at time but i already said that.

When you are 35/36 you can start to lose reflexes, timing, do you really think Michael Spinks would of beaten Larry Holmes in his prime?

Well look at it like this, Holmes did a better job of controlling Norton with his jab than Ali did.

True enough... Holmes was a great fighter, no i dont think Spinks could beat a prime Holmes in fact i dont think there has been a heavyweight since Holmes who could have beaten him

[Bushidō]

Holmes' jab was a weapon

[SeattleSeahawks]

The fact that Wlad or Vitali names are even mentioned shows me how funny this boxing forum is. Wlad and Vitali face either nobodies like that fat mexican Chris Arreola or has beens like Hasim Rahman. Or they fight people who are either smaller than them or dont fight back like Juan Carlos Gomez. Wlad or Vitali arent in the top 100 at doing anything. Well they are in the top 10 most overrated boxers of all time.

Holmes threw his jab all the time because that is all he had. And when people threw their jab back at him he wasnt effective.

Liston's jab was great but only fighting blown up super middleweights like Floyd Patterson.

George Foreman's jab on the other hand allowed him to fight till 48 and still push back skilled heavyweights like Shannon Briggs at the end of his career ( Briggs may have poor stamina but he is still a big strong man)

Lennox Lewis jab was good but the best people he beat in his career were a washed up Holyfield and Tyson. Bruno and Briggs were handling him until they ran out of steam and David Tua is a midget.

Ali had a great jab when he didnt paw with it.

Joe Louis for the most part fought people who were either smaller than him or people who were unskilled like Max and Buddy Baer.

[JAB5239]

The fact that Wlad or Vitali names are even mentioned shows me how funny this boxing forum is. Wlad and Vitali face either nobodies like that fat mexican Chris Arreola or has beens like Hasim Rahman. Or they fight people who are either smaller than them or dont fight back like Juan Carlos Gomez. Wlad or Vitali arent in the top 100 at doing anything. Well they are in the top 10 most overrated boxers of all time.

Holmes threw his jab all the time because that is all he had. And when people threw their jab back at him he wasnt effective.

Liston's jab was great but only fighting blown up super middleweights like Floyd Patterson.

George Foreman's jab on the other hand allowed him to fight till 48 and still push back skilled heavyweights like Shannon Briggs at the end of his career ( Briggs may have poor stamina but he is still a big strong man)

Lennox Lewis jab was good but the best people he beat in his career were a washed up Holyfield and Tyson. Bruno and Briggs were handling him until they ran out of steam and David Tua is a midget.

Ali had a great jab when he didnt paw with it.

Joe Louis for the most part fought people who were either smaller than him or people who were unskilled like Max and Buddy Baer.

You have ripped a few decent fighters in this post, but you call Shannon Briggs skilled. Your credibility is off to a shaky start here. I could tear this whole post down, but will choose to pass on that at the moment.

["Shion"]

Muhammad Ali, anyone?

[Dynamite Kid]

You have ripped a few decent fighters in this post, but you call Shannon Briggs skilled. Your credibility is off to a shaky start here. I could tear this whole post down, but will choose to pass on that at the moment.

New account gets created, first post is in the History section and its negative comment trying to tear down some great fighters, i wonder who this could be

[jjones10591]

In my opinion Tony TNT Tucker did

[Bsquared]

Holmes had the best heavyweight jab I've ever seen.

[mickey malone]

In my opinion Tony TNT Tucker did

Tucker had a magnificent jab, as did Buster Douglas and Tim Witherspoon, but they tend to get overlooked because they wern't always in shape..

Witherspoon, especially, had a tremendously powerful jab.. I remember watching him jab huge men, like Jorge Luis Gonzalez & Frank Bruno to pieces with it.. And this being administered with 30lbs of lard around his midriff.. Had Tim stayed in shape, he'd have been a beast..