IQ and Athletes Down the Eras

[The Old LefHook]

No one even knows what intelligence is or what IQ measures. Yet it does measure something which is apparently significant. One expects virtually all mathematical physicists to have high IQ's, for instance, and for nearly all medical doctors to be above 115.

All geniuses are not engaged in the pursuit of human knowledge, because one out of fifty people is a genius. Even all high geniuses are not out there on the frontiers of exploration. Actor James Woods has an IQ of 180+, putting him him on a par with what Isaac Newton is assumed to have had.

The world is an interesting place, that's why geniuses are spread all over in every field. Sports is no different.

The only boxing IQ I know of is one we can safely disregard as false--Cassius Clay's IQ induction tests for the Army. No doubt there are some very bright boxers, and certainly some trainers. Bobby Cyz was rumored to possess a genius IQ, which is anywhere north of 139 in some circles, and 134 in other circles.

Reggie Jackson has the highest IQ of any athlete I have heard of, at 160, which is probably higher than the average head of the mathematical physics department in most major universities.

About 174 gives anyone the mythical "one in a million," status.

[NChristo]

The only boxing IQ I know of is one we can safely disregard as false--Cassius Clay's IQ induction tests for the Army. No doubt there are some very bright boxers, and certainly some trainers. Bobby Cyz was rumored to possess a genius IQ, which is anywhere north of 139 in some circles, and 134 in other circles.

Reggie Jackson has the highest IQ of any athlete I have heard of, at 160, which is probably higher than the average head of the mathematical physics department in most major universities.

About 174 gives anyone the mythical "one in a million," status.

Czyz isn't just rumored to possess a genius IQ, he's a registered member of MENSA, pretty ridiculous.

[The Old LefHook]

Czyz isn't just rumored to possess a genius IQ, he's a registered member of MENSA, pretty ridiculous.

Maybe someone can dig up Czyz's IQ numbers.

[The Old LefHook]

Czyz is listed as 140. I don't know if that is his tested IQ or merely a statement of what his minimum must be for MENSA membership. Curiously, I note that several other moderns like Gena Davis and Hillary Clinton are listed at exactly 140, as if my speculation may be correct. 140 is the minimum score for entry into MENSA.

[billeau2]

Czyz is listed as 140. I don't know if that is his tested IQ or merely a statement of what his minimum must be for MENSA membership. Curiously, I note that several other moderns like Gena Davis and Hillary Clinton are listed at exactly 140, as if my speculation may be correct. 140 is the minimum score for entry into MENSA.

Chaz is a member... I don't know his numbers. Interesting fact also is that there are many autodidactics in the high IQ numbers. Many dees, dem and does guys who read the Daily News, not the New York times. Sonny Liston was illiterate yet many who worked with him said he was very intelligent. I mention Sonnt because this one really hurts... I really wish some one had the nuts to stand up to Sonny, This person should have resolved not to leave the room until he forced Sonny to understand that he had nothing to be ashamed of, and that his gifts were even more remarkable given his situation.

Sonny was ashamed of his illiteracy, along with the many other crosses he was to bare.

[The Old LefHook]

Chaz is a member... I don't know his numbers. Interesting fact also is that there are many autodidactics in the high IQ numbers. Many dees, dem and does guys who read the Daily News, not the New York times. Sonny Liston was illiterate yet many who worked with him said he was very intelligent. I mention Sonnt because this one really hurts... I really wish some one had the nuts to stand up to Sonny, This person should have resolved not to leave the room until he forced Sonny to understand that he had nothing to be ashamed of, and that his gifts were even more remarkable given his situation.

Sonny was ashamed of his illiteracy, along with the many other crosses he was to bare.

Liston had a wit. It was not separable from his personna. Without the personna the wit was neglible, but with it his words picked up great import.

The Klits are both "doctors," but who takes those east European sports degrees seriously? Those things are more meaningless than some boxing belts. The brothers-behemoth could be quite bright, though.

[billeau2]

Liston had a wit. It was not separable from his personna. Without the personna the wit was neglible, but with it his words picked up great import.

The Klits are both "doctors," but who takes those east European sports degrees seriously? Those things are more meaningless than some boxing belts. The brothers-behemoth could be quite bright, though.

They are obviously intelligent guys, especially given the language skills. I have studied Chinese for years now and probably sound like a very intelligent 3 year old in Mandarin...I respect anyone who can speak multiple languages.

[Ben Bolt]

I mention Sonnt because this one really hurts... I really wish some one had the nuts to stand up to Sonny, This person should have resolved not to leave the room until he forced Sonny to understand that he had nothing to be ashamed of.

The more I read and learn about Sonny, the more I like the guy.

As told in a BBC documentary, he ran away from home at 13 years of age because his dad beat the **** out of him. Being a homeless, afro-american young teen in the 1940s US didn�t give you a lot of opportunities, did it?

It�s said Sonny didn�t trust grown-ups, but he felt comfortable among children. A man having confidence in the frail and innocents can�t be bad.

[The Old LefHook]

The more I read and learn about Sonny, the more I like the guy.

As told in a BBC documentary, he ran away from home at 13 years of age because his dad beat the **** out of him. Being a homeless, afro-american young teen in the 1940s US didn�t give you a lot of opportunities, did it?

It�s said Sonny didn�t trust grown-ups, but he felt comfortable among children. A man having confidence in the frail and innocents can�t be bad.

Don't feel too sorry for po' lil' Sonny. Those huge mitts were used to slap sense into honest shopkeepers who didn't want to pay protection money.

Hitler felt more comfortable around children, too, and loved pets. Yes, such men can be bad. I imagine a few shopkeepers uncorked a bottle of champagne at news of the bully's death. He was not a good guy, and would choke the piss out of you until your tongue was slapping your own face, mister.

[Anthony342]

Well, that was his living outside of boxing and he did it well. If you weren't a shop owner, maybe he wasn't bad to someone. Seemed kind of scary and menacing to me.