^^says it above^^
I think Joe Calzaghe is definitely is one of them.
I think Joe Calzaghe is definitely is one of them.
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Nino Benvenuti ,Carlos Monzon ,Roman Gonzales (his midget doe),Canelo Alvarez ,Castillio,Hatton,Dariusz Michalczewski,Archie Moore.Originally posted by TMT Hassan View Post -
Cherry picking trinket defenders seldom acheive the top credit rating. Calzaghe was a helluva fighter, no doubt about that. But what he lacked was a hog's appetite for the huge challenge. Fans know when this is happening in a career, because they know the fights they dream about seeing. He was good enough for us to dream about him being in there with people he waited on until they were geezers. Who cared at that point? Sad fact, he provided more disappointment than thrills in his career. I am sure his career was immensely satisfying to him. Lots of money, a comfortable life, but what is not there irks, I am sure, and that is an ATG legacy. Perhaps the truth is that guys who lacked the supreme confidence were unlikely to acheive any higher than they did. Anyone with supreme confidence takes the challenge.
It takes a hog, it takes a hog's appetite. The fab four were great because they were all hogs for challenge. That is what made them fab. Hagler was a hog, he was just no idiot who was going to move up and away from his biggest money fights.
Hopkins had no serious challengers for years at middleweight once Jones moved up. Now he wants to squall about how GGG should move up and emulate his spirit of seeking challenge. Hogwash! Mayweather, too, is in on the calls. Mayweather always sought more titles, never bigger challenges. There is a transparent difference. Let's see, Foreman has gotten in on that act too. And Tarver, as well. Oh, and Ward. I believe Lewis harped some too. All the harpists are black, it ain't my fault I noticed. Hoya doesn't even count, his motives are so transparent. Who will be the next black boxer to call for GGG to move up and show some courage? Perhaps Stevenson will call for both GGG and the winner of Ward/Kovalev to move up and show some black courage.
Anyway, after a long time, we no longer care who is responsible for a fight not being made. GGG has to get moving fast, whether he has to fight five men on an evening as Foreman did, take less than ideal money, or fight a scrub every six weeks to make a spectacle. He has to get in the ring with someone people feel has a chance against him. Canelo should not be a concern. Most everyone understands that he will stove the red Mexican head in painfully. At least get the other so-called middleweight champs to cower to the ring.
After a while, if it continues, everyone will blame Golovkin, not just the minority who are now.Comment
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If anything, Calzaghe gets more credit than he deserves.
He got in the HOF on the first ballot, which IMO he doesn't really deserve.Comment
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Dan why you hate him ,dont deserv HoF? ?There plenty who dont deserv and are there but not Joe.Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostComment
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Arguably the most blasphemous, POS statement I have ever read on this site......Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostComment
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Can't really speak on the fighters from the past, but guys in my life that seem to not get the credit..
Donald curry
Julien Jackson
Mike mccallum
Micheal nunn
Antonio Tarver
Acelino Freitas
Joel casamoyer
All of these guys were legit world champ p4p guys at their peak, but never really get spoken about when talking about great fightersComment
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Freitas was not a great fighter. He had no technique. All he did was employ a lot of extra movement taking advantage of his athleticism. As soon as he faced someone with good technique they mopped the floor with him and he was finished. He was a flash in the pan Brazillian idol everyone soon forgot. You are overrating him. Cassanmayor was obviously superior.Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
I don't know what Tarver did besides KO a shot Jones. I don't think he deserves much recognition, an opinion with which he himself mightily disagrees.Comment
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Good picks especialy mccallum and Nunn ,Nunn was hell of a fighter.I would add Fernando VargasOriginally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostComment
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Yeah but you don't really know about the sport.Originally posted by BM dnobagaV View Post
It's not difficult to argue that Calzaghe doesn't deserve to be in the HOF much less on the first ballot.Comment
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