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    #31
    as someone mentioned, function is very, very important. it is top of my list when i use weight or do many exercises.

    function and weight lifting are not very closely related. not when you cinsider pure aspects. and yeah, they are realted, just not super closely.

    my fighting art, is based on function over form. very adaptable, and us XY guys ****ing crave power. however, that doesn't mean we hit the gym everyday. we work on producing specific types of power as efficiently as possible. that is our take - well, not all of it.

    but interesting contrast, huh?

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      #32
      Originally posted by j View Post
      as someone mentioned, function is very, very important. it is top of my list when i use weight or do many exercises.

      function and weight lifting are not very closely related. not when you cinsider pure aspects. and yeah, they are realted, just not super closely.

      my fighting art, is based on function over form. very adaptable, and us XY guys ****ing crave power. however, that doesn't mean we hit the gym everyday. we work on producing specific types of power as efficiently as possible. that is our take - well, not all of it.

      but interesting contrast, huh?
      What about plyometrics, what do you know about that? And do you know if there are plyometric exercises for the back and/or shoulders?
      Thanks in advance!

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        #33
        Originally posted by Rafael S View Post
        What about plyometrics, what do you know about that? And do you know if there are plyometric exercises for the back and/or shoulders?
        Thanks in advance!
        honestly i haven't investigated what is usually taught as pylometrics enough to say something on it. i know what i have been trained in and what i have found to work.

        for power exercises relating to explosive movement, i have found that going from a very relaxed and still state of composure and hitting the switch into explosive movement works miracles for explosive punching. and i prefer to start with just a step and transfer of weight continuously and gradually add body movement to your technique. doing this over and over so it is reflex. but do it mindfully examining each part of the body until the whole body works together in one movement. efficiency is what i was taught. u find that u really don't need to use muscles a hell of a lot to have power.

        my advice for any training is to investigate it slowly and thoroughly. ask what the purpose is, and fthen also forgot about the purpose and see where it takes you. so be both detached and involved.

        check into it and keep me updated. i am more or less an expert on CMA power exercises - which are so ****ing many and each having it's own theory. but they work - that's why they have been round for hundreds of years. exercises become famous because people attain great result with.

        keep me updated bro.

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          #34
          Thanks j,

          I'll definitly try make it a reflex indeed. The thing is doing the same movement all the time gets kinda boring when it's just training. When I train with weights on the other hands, there's alot of variation because of the circuit. But too bad those aren't really functional exercises
          Perhaps I can make them a bit more functional if I explode with them though, as I mentioned earlier. Cut off a little weight so I can go from that relaxed mode to that burst. (rather than just a long intense push)

          I also just experimented a bit and I think I found a good exercise:
          I put my body against my heavybag with my arms down. And just push the heavybag away in a burst with my hips and shoulders. (using the movement to execute a punch but without using the arms)
          The problem is my bag only weighs 30kg

          I think I'll buy myself a medicine ball because it can be used for lots of things. I don't really have the room or propriate walls to throw it against though...

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            #35
            i have 3 medecine balls. a 10 lb lclassic leather ball, an 8 lb bubber one with handles(don't ask what handles are for), and one 9 lb smaller bouncy one. they are ****ing great tools. so versatile. very practical.

            hey, your experiment without using arms is old as dirt - congratulations!!!! u stumbled on a secret power practice. i told ya to follow your instincts. very interesting results from it, huh? well, keep working on it. i bet you will amaze yourself soon. once u get even more on right track, it is the learnng curve that takes over for u as long as u actually think "why" and "what" unlike many others who follow.

            don't worry about weight of bag for now. just work on moving bag with relaxd transfer of weight and maintain balance throught movement. read my blogs and links - may help ya.

            keep me updated. and - very right about puch and bump force. they actually are the same, just in different levels of speeds. so same power u can push a person with should be same power as u punch a person with, except the force is diffeent - more percussive and sharp and short.

            great practice - welcome to free thinkers club!
            Last edited by j; 08-17-2008, 03:48 PM.

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              #36
              "an 8 lb bubber one with handles(don't ask what handles are for)"


              I use this when doing decline sit ups. You hold the medicine ball over your head by the handles and do sit ups. Its a great AB workout when by yourself.

              If you have a partner you can use the normal medicine ball and have them stand in front of you while on the decline bench and they throw it to your left and right side as your going down to work the side of your abs.

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                #37
                yeah, that's one use i have used those handles for. but, the andles are so ****ing small it is hard to hold the dam thing without making an effort.

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