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    Plant-based diets good for the heart

    Giving plants the starring role in your diet is good for heart health, a review of four decades of data shows.

    Researchers in Denmark showed vegetarian and vegan diets cut levels of cholesterol and fats in the blood that increase heart attacks.

    The effect - equivalent to about a third that of taking daily drugs - was "really substantial", they said.

    But experts said meat and dairy had their own health benefits - and not all meat-free diets were actually healthy.

    The research pulled together the 30 trials since 1982 in which scientists gave volunteers a set diet and tracked its impact on heart health. In total, nearly 2,400 people from around the world were involved.

    High levels of bad cholesterol lead to fatty deposits building up in blood vessels, which can eventually cause heart attacks or strokes.

    The results, published in the European Heart Journal, showed vegetarian and vegan diets:

    "That corresponds to a third of the effect of a cholesterol-lowering statin [pill] - so that's really substantial," Prof Ruth Frikke-Schmidt, who conducted the work, at Rigshospitalet, in Denmark, told BBC News.

    The studies would have needed to have controlled people's diets for years or decades to see how that change in the blood played out.

    But Prof Frikke-Schmidt used data from trials of statins to estimate maintaining such a diet for 15 years could cut the risk of cardiovascular disease by 20%.

    The World Health Organization estimates cardiovascular disease kills nearly 18 million people every year.

    Despite the health benefits of following a more plant-based diet, Prof Frikke-Schmidt warned that anyone following such a diet should come off drugs they have been prescribed because they are at risk of heart disease.

    She choses to eat a mostly plant-based diet, with some chicken and white fish for "my health, the environment and because I like it".

    Other diets that incorporate meat, such as the Mediterranean diet, have also been shown to be healthy.

    Prof Frikke-Schmidt said meat did not have to be excluded but "the important message is 'plant-based'", as this was good for both health and the environment.

    But it is worth noting people on the trials were given "healthy" vegetarian and vegan meals.

    Vegetables, fruits, nuts, pulses such as chickpeas and wholegrains are very different to sweets, crisps and sugary drinks despite both being meat-free.

    "Not all plant-based diets are equal," Prof Aedin Cassidy, from Queen's University Belfast, said. And diets such as "those including refined carbohydrates, processed foods high in fat/salt" would still be unhealthy.

    There have also been questions about the current wave of highly processed vegan foods, which are markedly different to a vegan diet from the 1980s.

    Quadram Institute chief scientific officer Prof Martin Warren said: "Animal-based products such as meat do represent nutrient-dense foods that have other benefits.

    "Similarly, crop-based diets can be low in certain micronutrients - so in general, reducing meat consumption but maintaining a broad and varied diet is good for health."

    #2
    I've tried a few of these diets, I can't stick to them for too long

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      #3
      I’ve heard that the Mediterranean diet is easiest to follow because it’s less restrictive than say a vegan, keto, or paleo diet.
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        #4
        Originally posted by b morph View Post
        I’ve heard that the Mediterranean diet is easiest to follow because it’s less restrictive than say a vegan, keto, or paleo diet.
        Some people swear by that diet, becoming very popular

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          #5
          Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post

          Some people swear by that diet, becoming very popular
          Isn’t it just basically seafood with salads, fruits, and bread, and rice?

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            #6
            Originally posted by b morph View Post

            Isn’t it just basically seafood with salads, fruits, and bread, and rice?
            Staples of the Mediterranean diet include fruits and vegetables, whole grains, seafood, nuts and legumes, and olive oil. In lesser amounts, poultry, eggs, cheese and dairy are consumed.

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              #7
              I eat salads a few times a week.

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                #8
                Originally posted by kara View Post
                I eat salads a few times a week.
                Depends on the salads. Some salads are pretty high in calories depending on what's in them.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post

                  Depends on the salads. Some salads are pretty high in calories depending on what's in them.
                  Interesting fact: if we look at data, and strictly go by the data the conclusion would be that there are many optimal diets for human beings. One of the first times the media ran with this fact was I believe in the 1940's or so... there was an exploration team in Antartica and they were in trouble, many died of starvation. However some of them went with the local Aboriginal Inuit people who subsisted on a diet of whale blubber and little else. The funny thing was: these people were in great shape and one of the surviving members, upon returning home, told the expectant medical team "I never felt better in my life!" So EVEN to a person having to adapt to a diet that was restrictive, the diet obviously was in some sense, optimal enough.

                  Many people feel like diets that only use animal products reduce our need for other catalysts like vitamins, so, for example, we need less Vitamin C on such a diet. Anthropologists studying nutrition through bone density and structure, using the mandible because the jaw bone expresses itself based on nutritional efficacy on a scale of being rounded off, less dense, compared to fully formed with maximum density, depending on nutritional content, found that the optimal protein source was seafoods. Basically people who ate the most seafood had the best bone density and formation. This was followed by those who ate meat and dairy.

                  There are certain consistent correlations that seem to give us clues: processed foods, with some MAJOR caveats seem to not be good for us. The caveats being: when foods have no nutritional content and could harm us, for example, White bread, they are fortified with vitamins. These vitamins help us. It is similar to dog food: Even feeding a dog a great natural diet is not necessarily optimal because dog food has nutrients that dogs seem to really need. But we see a lot of health problems start to emerge when Crisco replaces butter, and other such things.

                  It also seems to be the case that carbs can be bad for us when we overdo it. But beyond some of these truths, what is optimal seems to be a variety of different diets.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post

                    Staples of the Mediterranean diet include fruits and vegetables, whole grains, seafood, nuts and legumes, and olive oil. In lesser amounts, poultry, eggs, cheese and dairy are consumed.
                    What about potatoes? I tend to eat a lot of potatoes cuz they’re cheap. I’ll bake them or cook them on the stove top with olive oil. Throw in some peppers and unions or things like that. Maybe a little bit of cheese towards the end.

                    Oh and I like a lot of nuts. I like salty nuts in my mouth.

                    I just bought a salmon fillet last night. Big one. Half last night, other half for tonight.

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