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Foreman The Greatest Heavyweight Ever?
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if you're talking about a barfight i can't think of a better candidate in history
but he's not the greatest HW ever
joe louis and muhammad ali are basically a lock for that distinction
i rarely see anybody worth a damn claiming otherwise.
and really, what argument is there to make?
the tape speaks for itself, really. joe louis might be the best fighter i've ever seen. a similar argument can be made about pre layoff ali/clay.
they were that fuccking good.
(for the record i rank louis behind only robinson. my top ten is forthcoming for you fine lads. shred away i aint scared ^^ )
but also the CV's are far superior. i don't want to list the fighters that ali fought, but i will.
and joe louis and ali, in their own ways, were each heros and iconic figures to a much greater degree than george foreman (who did represent older people, and certainly crossed over beyond boxing in his own right)
you really think george foreman is a greater fighter than joe louis?
or muhammad ali?
if you want to go ahead rank him third behind those two go right ahead
but otherwise i'll look at you a bit funky ^^
it just doesn't sit right with me
the greatest HW of all time "George Foreman"Last edited by New England; 09-16-2011, 11:27 AM.
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Originally posted by New England View Postif you're talking about a barfight i can't think of a better candidate in history
but he's not the greatest HW ever
joe louis and muhammad ali are basically a lock for that distinction
i rarely see anybody worth a damn claiming otherwise.
and really, what argument is there to make?
the tape speaks for itself, really. joe louis might be the best fighter i've ever seen. a similar argument can be made about pre layoff ali/clay.
they were that fuccking good.
(for the record i rank louis behind only robinson. my top ten is forthcoming for you fine lads. shred away i aint scared ^^ )
but also the CV's are far superior. i don't want to list the fighters that ali fought, but i will.
and joe louis and ali, in their own ways, were each heros and iconic figures to a much greater degree than george foreman (who did represent older people, and certainly crossed over beyond boxing in his own right)
you really think george foreman is a greater fighter than joe louis?
or muhammad ali?
if you want to go ahead rank him third behind those two go right ahead
but otherwise i'll look at you a bit funky ^^
it just doesn't sit right with me
the greatest HW of all time "George Foreman"
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Gentlemen, against the better compitition George fought he beat Moorer, Lyle, and Frazier 2X. He lost to Holyfield, Young, and Ali. He also lost to Briggs and badly to Morrison. Remember the Moorer fight was a lucky punch nothing more. With a record of 5-3 against the upper class fighters and 2 losses to second tier (at best) hwts, not only is he not the GOAT hwt, not even top 10 in my book.
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Originally posted by Boxing Bob View PostGentlemen, against the better compitition George fought he beat Moorer, Lyle, and Frazier 2X. He lost to Holyfield, Young, and Ali. He also lost to Briggs and badly to Morrison. Remember the Moorer fight was a lucky punch nothing more. With a record of 5-3 against the upper class fighters and 2 losses to second tier (at best) hwts, not only is he not the GOAT hwt, not even top 10 in my book.
In boxing there is no such thing as a lucky punch. Boxing is the punch business. If your intent is to throw and land it, it ain't lucky. No more than a home run, three point shot, or a touchdown.
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