1-2nd Spinks fight
2-2nd Norton fight
3-1st Frazier fight
What are your thoughts and your picks?
2-2nd Norton fight
3-1st Frazier fight
What are your thoughts and your picks?
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No way did he train hardest for his 1st Frazier fight, infact he trained harder for his 2nd Frazier fight. -
He actually trained very hard for his fight with Holmes as well I believe.Comment
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Dundee said Ali trained his hardest for the 1st Frazier fight.Originally posted by hayZ View Post
It was the ring rust and 3 1/2 year lay-off that cost Ali the 1st fight.
He just came off a crueling 15 round fight with Oscar Bonevena,and suffered alot of body punishment.He needed to rest and recover after the Bonevena fight,before going into hard training against Frazier.But he decided to not rest and recover,because he needed more time to get ready for Frazier.Dundee,the DR,and Ali all wondered if he should rest and recover after the tough fight with Bonevena that fighters need.But Ali over rode them and started to train right away.He did not have the time he needed to recover before fighting Frazier,and it might have been a different fight had he rested and recovered.
But the decision on Ali's appeal on his conviction for not joining the Military was due any day! And he had to fight Frazier before he wanted too.During training Ali kept saying he needed 2 more tune-up fights.Then he said he needed atleast one more tune-up fight just 2 weeks before the fight.
So Ali went right into hard training for the 1st Frazier fight just days after his tough fight with Bonevena,with no rest.So he did train real hard for the 1st Frazier fight,but the ring rust and 3 1/2 year lay-off cost him the fight.Comment
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Watch the Ali Ringside. Dundee stated that Ali from 60-67 was a gym rat. He loved to train. Dundee would have to force him out of the gym. There was never a more perfect heavyweight than the Ali from 64-67Originally posted by boxingbuff View PostComment
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Yes and No.I read where he trained hard and actually left the fight in the gym.Originally posted by Brockton Lip View Post
BUT he didn't train as hard as we were led to believe.Ali was taking medication for his thyroid,and actually doubled up on the medication because he said it made him feel so good.So instead of "working off" the weight he was speeding and allowing the thyroid medication take off the weight.He looked great at 217 lbs with a flat belly,and his gray hair dyied black! But it was an illusion.So he trained hard,but not near as hard as we where to believe.Comment
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Your right.From 1960-67 Ali trained hard for EVERY fight! I should have said after his 3 1/2 year lay-off,because before the lay-off he was always the 1st one in the gym and the last one to leave the gym.Originally posted by 1SILVA View Post
He even used to run to the gym 3 miles away! I believe he was also the only Heavyweight Champion of the World that was a ******! Of course he would cover this up in his book.But he never had *** before the Liston fight.He would turn down what pimps had to offer him.There were even those who thought he was gay,including Sonny Liston!
So he abstained from ***,ran 3 miles to the gym,was the 1st one in the gym and the last to leave.He was also a freak when it came to watching film! Yes,from 1964-67 he ALWAYS trained hard!Comment
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Must have put the miles in for Manilla too I would have thought?Comment
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I know he was committing adultry while training.Originally posted by GJC View Post
When his wife found out she flew to Manilla' and really had it out with him,and then flew back to the States.Comment
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Ali said that without his preparation, he would have surely lost after the 10th round.Originally posted by GJC View Post
Pre-fight talk:
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