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    Name your TOP10 Greatest heavyweights of all timw

    Haven't posted here in a while, used to post here ages ago. Wheres butterfly gone?

    Name 'em

    1) Muhammad Ali
    2) Mike Tyson
    3) Joe Louis
    4) Larry Holmes
    5) Lennox Lewis
    6) George Foreman
    7) Joe Frazier
    8) Rocky Marciano
    9) Sonny Liston
    10) Vitali Klitshchko

    PRIME FOR PRIME. I know Joe Louis had a better resume than Mike Tyson but I don't believe he could have beaten the Tyson of 86-89 PRIME TYSON.

    Notable mentions: Ken Norton/Wladmir Klitschko/Evander Holyfield

    #2
    I think you're putting far too much emphasis on h2h when talking about greatest HWs. And I can't see Marciano beating Sonny Liston TBH.

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      #3
      Larry>>>Mike

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        #4
        To be honest there are three ways to provide a personal top 10:

        1) Based on legend/resume

        2) Based on who you think would win match ups prime for prime

        3) Based on who you enjoy watching ( your favorites )



        My own list based on legend/resume would look something like:

        1) Muhammed Ali
        2) Joe Louis
        3) Larry Holmes
        4) Jack Johnson
        5) George Foreman
        6) Evander Holyfield
        7) Mike Tyson
        8) Lennox Lewis
        9) Rocky Marciano
        10) Jack Dempsey

        The last four could be jumbled round all day, Dempsey and Marciano have a good argument for being higher but their title reigns could have been better. Other than that Frazier would come in at number 11, Liston at number 12. I'd like to stick Tunney in but his career at heavy was too short.



        Now as for prime for prime matchups my list differs greatly:

        1) Muhammed Ali
        2) Larry Holmes
        3) Mike Tyson
        4) George Foreman
        5) Rid**** Bowe
        6) Evander Holyfield
        7) Sonny Liston
        8) Lennox Lewis
        9) Joe Louis
        10) Vitali Klitschko

        So many of these prime for prime are closely matched, in fact between number 3 and number 7, I would have no confidence in picking a winner......Mike Tyson is a very controversial third, I admit that. Foreman and Liston would be very nasty stylistic matches for him.

        Sadly I also felt very sheepish putting Louis ahead of Klitschko. If they were to meet in a ring I fear Vitali would be a much tougher foe than Schmelling, Farr or Gallento who near prime Louis had problems with.



        Now as for personal faves again my list is totally different:

        1) Muhammed Ali
        2) Mike Tyson
        3) Larry Holmes
        4) Jersey Joe Walcott
        5) Gene Tunney
        6) Evander Holyfield
        7) George Foreman
        8) Rid**** Bowe
        9) Jack Dempsey
        10) Joe Frazier



        The quest to achieve a perfect top ten is too tough as there are so many factors to consider. I like keeping to three lists like above.

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          #5
          the greatest

          1.Mike tyson 2.joe louis 3.ali

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            #6
            joe louis
            muhammed ali
            larry holmes
            jack johnson
            george foreman
            jack dempsey
            rocky marciano
            joe frazier
            evander holyfield
            lennox lewis
            mike tyson

            i know its 11..but i couldn't bring myself to make a list without tyson on it.

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              #7
              1. Vitali Klitschko
              2. George Foreman
              3. Mike Tyson
              4. Muhammad Ali
              5. Larry Holmes
              6. Oliver McCall
              7. Lennox Lewis
              8. Wladimir Klitschko
              9. David Tua
              10. Evander Holyfield

              11. Tony Tucker
              12. Rid**** Bowe
              13. James Douglas
              14. Joe Frazier
              15. Joe Louis
              16. Chris Byrd
              17. Sultanakhmed Ibragimov
              18. Ikemefula Ibeabuchi
              19. Jameel McCline
              20. Ron Lyle

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                #8
                Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                1. Vitali Klitschko
                2. George Foreman
                3. Mike Tyson
                4. Muhammad Ali
                5. Larry Holmes
                6. Oliver McCall
                7. Lennox Lewis
                8. Wladimir Klitschko
                9. David Tua
                10. Evander Holyfield

                11. Tony Tucker
                12. Rid**** Bowe
                13. James Douglas
                14. Joe Frazier
                15. Joe Louis
                16. Chris Byrd
                17. Sultanakhmed Ibragimov
                18. Ikemefula Ibeabuchi
                19. Jameel McCline
                20. Ron Lyle


                I won't even get into the order, but you can boot all the guys I bolded clean out of the top 20.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                  joe louis
                  muhammed ali
                  larry holmes
                  jack johnson
                  george foreman
                  jack dempsey
                  rocky marciano
                  joe frazier
                  evander holyfield
                  lennox lewis
                  mike tyson

                  i know its 11..but i couldn't bring myself to make a list without tyson on it.


                  My list is a bit different, but this isn't bad. Where's Liston though?

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