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film of fighters who fit Harry Greb's fighting style?
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Originally posted by Holywarrior View PostHopkins was far too much of a spoiler than the prime Harry Greb to be closely connected. Harry was barely past his prime when he died.
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Postmy point being, that they werent dazzling but still could beat nearly everyone. And Greb gets labelled as a dirty fighter, but in reality, he just used some rough tactics much like hopkins
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Originally posted by Holywarrior View PostYou read too much Nat Fleisher. We need Klompton in here to give us the goods on Greb. You read his book?
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostNo i dont think i have read it.... And im not a fan of nat fleisher either,, i think his opinion gets overrated and treated like the gospel
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Originally posted by Holywarrior View PostHe was far from a dirty fighter , people overrate this just because he worked on the inside. The only guys that were dirty were guys like Walker who tried to clinch and spoil once they realized he was great in close.
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Greb was extremely fast of both hands and feet. He was tremendous defensively in his prime. He threw dozens of punches but most importantly he mixed up his style. He would fight one round in one style and the next round in a completely different style and the following round in another style. He compared himself to a pitcher who is constantly changing up in order to disconcert his opponent. The comparison to Hopkins is apt, not in style but in tactics, and as it pertains to Hopkins when he got older and Greb when he started to age. Both guys, as they got old and their stamina wasnt what it once was, they started the first round slow, doing just enough to stay out in front and then slowly cranked up the pace over the next few rounds before really opening up by the midway point and then by the finish they were dominating. Ive seen several Hopkins fights, late in his career, where started slow and you had this impression that if he continued at that pace he could be in trouble. But invariably by the midway point he was pretty much in command and by the end of the fight you were back to watch a typical Hopkins wide decision. Thats kind of how Greb was late in his career. You read the accounts of these fights and you get the impression that people felt he was vulnerable early on but then would completely takeover the fight after a few rounds and there was no looking back. He admitted that this was a tactic of his. There were really a few phases to Greb's career/style where he evolved and developed. At his best he could box with anyone in a classical style, had an endless well spring of stamina, was incredibly durable to the point that if a fighter was able to land a damaging punch Greb would immediately be back in his face, fighting him down, and punishing him. His ability to slip punches made it extremely hard to hit his head and if you did it was likely to be a glancing blow with no hope of a follow up. His legs were compared to steel springs because he could bounce around the ring so rapidly and tirelessly that he was nearly impossible to corner. If you did he was strong enough that he outmuscled big heavyweights like Bill Brennan and Joe Cox pulling them around, and wearing them down. All that being said he could be wild, particularly when he had his man hurt. He would often get guys hurt and then would go so wild trying for the KO that his accuracy suffered and he would lose the opportunity. Because he relied on his reflexes and natural physical gifts he could often look amateurish in style. It wasnt uncommon for observers to say he looked like he didnt know how to fight. This was particularly true as his eyesight worsened. In this phase of his career he took on a more mauling style whereby he would grip a fighter with his left hand and wail away with his right. This allowed him to counteract the loss of depth perception he experienced by the loss of sight in his eye. I myself have always imagined Greb to be a faster, more mobile version of a cross between Mayorga and Calzaghe with better defense. The fighter he was most compared to during his life was Johnny Dundee. Sadly there is only a very short clip of Dundee fighting and a short clip of him sparring.
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