Ancient fighters and fighting.

[Marchegiano]

Philon of Korkyra - Son of the hammer

2-time boxing champion of the 500 and 496 BC Olympia. A statue was built in tribute for Philon with the description composed by Simondes: “My fatherland is Korkyra and my name is Philon. I am the son of Glaukos, and I won two Olympia victories for boxing.”

I'm fairly certain Glaukos and Philon are the first father son champion duo.

I don't know much about Philon myself at the moment. Hopefully I'll find something and add to the thread.

I think it's pretty interesting how all of this supposedly came about. A farmer sees his son drive a stake without a hammer and signs him up for the panhellenic circulation. That kid wins the whole tournament for his father then has a son who wins two for him.

[Marchegiano]

Diognetos of Crete - Demigod Slayer

Winner of the boxing event at the Olympic games in 488 BC.

Diognetos did not receive the crown and was even attacked by the Eleans because the adversary whom he had defeated and killed was called Herakles – the Greek, or original, name for Hercules.

Dishonored by the Hellano***ai and hated by the Eleans, but Diognetos was still worshiped as a hero by the Cretans.

The shame that came with Kleomedes killing Ikkos with an open hand and Diognetos killing a man named Herakles set the next champion up to be one of boxing's first big stars. The ancient world became hungry for the their idealized version of a boxer, and Euthymos was keen to embody that idealism. Which in turn set up boxing's first major megastar anti-hero in Theaganes.

Diognetos did not get officially recognized by the Olympic Committee until 2014

Talk about corruption and fanboyism.

[Marchegiano]

I avert my eyes when I see two dogs coupling as well. It sounds as if perhaps Aelian did not, to be so impressed by this normal reaction of Kleitomachos.

Ancient man was all sorts of a ****ed up perv. Kleitomachos was probably just one of the few sane people around back then.

We know he claimed to be abstinent I just can't find a decent online source. Aelian will pop up in searches and other references don't. Pausian's depictions of greece should have some mention if you can pick that book up. He's the first champion to claim he doesn't have *** while training.

[Anthony342]

Melankomas? I think there are treatments for that now.

[Marchegiano]

Pygmachia - Rules, equipment, & training

I've uploaded chapter 15 (Boxing) of Norman Gardiner's Athletics in the Ancient World - ISBN 978-0486424866

If you have any questions not covered by the book ask me and I'll do my best to answer.


--edit-- For some reason I thought they'd be full sized. I'll post direct links below

[Marchegiano]

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Well when you do ****** as **** **** like that you can't be surprised when I call you ****** as ****, treat you like a ****** ****, show no respect for your pussitude (that's ***** attitude for you slow ****s), and generally post about this whore like I know thousands of years of history you ****s don't.

No one's going to explain to me why my threads have been condensed? What's wrong was I flooding out your history themed grab ass debates with actual real boxing history? Something wrong with taking history seriously?

None of you ****s know **** all about boxing prior to the 20th century. Probably because it's a **** ton of information, people are lazy ****ers, and they don't know the relevance init? So I made some threads with the ****ing purpose of shorten the information to something more palatable, easier to find, and focus on firsts in the sport. Just for some astute mod to recognize most the post in the last 48hrs in this section are mine and condense that **** into one massive thread.

Great, now my easily searched and condensed threads are combined into one massive hunk of ****ing ******.

If I wanted a novel I'd've written a novel. I didn't break any rules and you still edited me. What worse is there's not even a ****ing note. Anyone coming to this thread now thinks I'm the ****** **** who arranged this thread half assed.

I'm sorry I attempted some serious historical discussion. This is fair warning though, if you want me to stop, or respect childish actions like this, you may as well ban me. I'm going to press on explaining Pygmachia and Pyx then I'm moving into Honor Duels, then i'm going into London and the Revision, then early Queensberry and finally after all of that I'll play grab ass with youse and explain why your top tens are ****. And trust, looking at a three thousand year old sport and making all time decisions based off the last 120 years has lead youse to believing some absurd nonsense. I don't give a **** if you're just going to consider the talent in the last 120yrs, you still have to consider the training and lineage that made them possible, dumb****s.

As a history section poster you know full and well the NSB posters are a little behind in knowledge and very much ahead in assumptions. From my perspective you're one step away from them. I thought given they are NSB and you are History you wanted to be more knowledgeable and less filled with assumption.


I wouldn't have bothered me so much if you put in any effort at all to make this thread make sense. Instead it starts with my version of the Euthymos story and ends with rules.....brilliant, thanks bud. Thanks for that. I was just too ****** to write it in one thread in that order, but now that it's done I can see you are an academic wizard intcha? Prick.

[Eff Pandas]

LOL calm down bro.

You need to look into doing a podcast on this sh^t man. History podcasts are kinda hot these days. A boxing history podcast could be a popular subgenre of that or maybe more importantly for you just a way to get your stories & thoughts out there for other interested parties, myself being one of them, to hear & appreciate about this stuff.

F#ck this place if they won't let you post what you, how you want it, when you aren't doing anything wrong that I can understand.

[kafkod]

Euthymos was a hype job

So in the year 480 the hype job Euthymos was stopped and exposed by a young and very brash Theaganese of Thasos, then he tried to get his cred back by pretending he'd killed a demon that was already dead before he got to it?