Why was there no Ali-Foreman rematch?

[Rusty Tromboni]

Tony Zale vs. Graziano

Physically, Foreman had plenty left in the tank, but mentally he couldn't recover from that loss. Besides, Ali's win was definitive, and I'm not sure there was a demand to see a rematch. Possibly after Foreman's KO of Frazier, but Ali had moved on.

Yeah, Ali had to work his ass off to get his rematch with Frazier.

[Rusty Tromboni]

- -U don't know Ali ducked the rematch?

Why U never say what grade U in now?

Do you believe Foreman's report that **** Saddler gave a laced drink?

[Willie Pep 229]

Here's a weird take on Foreman . . .

. . . his overly sensitive nature which caused that emotional collapse after Zaire is what in the end sold all those barbecue grills in the 90s.

Foreman (I) was a wrecking machine, a monster, and a bully to most, but his emotional collapse humanized him and when he made his comeback in '87 he was viewed as failed and vulnerable; the second time around people were willing to embrace him for his sensitivity.

Foreman (I) was Godzilla, Foreman (II) had attached to it the pathos of King Kong.

[ShoulderRoll]

- -Dude, November 1974 playboy interview. U squirreled away in a monastery?

U like pornography with your Metamucil?

[ShoulderRoll]

I always thought it was because he lost the Young fight. I suspect there are many other stories floating around about Ali's intent, but in the end Foreman needed to win the Young fight and didn't.

That year, 1977 Ali fought Evangelista in May and Shavers in September. Foreman lost to Young in March.

With a Foreman victory in March there would have been room for a rematch in '77.

Before Ali, Evangelista never fought outside of Spain, so I suspect he wasn't a mandatory, but instead just another European walkover fight for Ali.

Shavers on the other hand had a pretty good 1976-1977, (having lost to Ron Lyle back in 1975), but there were no wins over any big names.

Ali could have passed on either Evangelists or Shavers in '77 and made room for Foreman; no one would have complained.

Looking at BoxRec it looks like Foreman took a full year off after losing to Ali. Had he gotten right back on the horse and beaten Ron Lyle and Joe Frazier sooner maybe public pressure would have started to build more on Ali to do the rematch.

[Willie Pep 229]

Looking at BoxRec it looks like Foreman took a full year off after losing to Ali. Had he gotten right back on the horse and beaten Ron Lyle and Joe Frazier sooner maybe public pressure would have started to build more on Ali to do the rematch.

I agree, I think it's closer to 18 months off. It would have been best if he had gotten to Frazier before the 'Thrilla' that would have left Ali with only Foreman available for a big fight in '75. -

Foreman takes out Frazier and Ali takes out Lyle and by late '75 only Foreman is around for a really big payday. (We have to assume Wepner and Bugner were showcase fights that didn't bring in really big bucks.)

[QueensburyRules]

Here's a weird take on Foreman . . .

. . . his overly sensitive nature which caused that emotional collapse after Zaire is what in the end sold all those barbecue grills in the 90s.

Foreman (I) was a wrecking machine, a monster, and a bully to most, but his emotional collapse humanized him and when he made his comeback in '87 he was viewed as failed and vulnerable; the second time around people were willing to embrace him for his sensitivity.

Foreman (I) was Godzilla, Foreman (II) had attached to it the pathos of King Kong.

- -Interesting that the lower IQ Ali was adopted by the antiVietnam collegians for his doggeral poetry and draft stance while the higher IQ Foreman with barely a dozen AMA fights demolished the experienced Soviet bloc that thusly stereotyped him as the surly premordial brute blunt force, and then when he waved his tiny American flag, he became the Uncle Tom before Joe was ever damned as such.

Don't know if you've ever read Uncle Toms Cabin by abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe that Abe Lincoln noted set off the Civil War, but Tom was the hero caught between two worlds tryin to do right by both.

[QueensburyRules]

Looking at BoxRec it looks like Foreman took a full year off after losing to Ali. Had he gotten right back on the horse and beaten Ron Lyle and Joe Frazier sooner maybe public pressure would have started to build more on Ali to do the rematch.

- -He was taking in Ali rematch offers. Why would George deign to sc**** to U low levels?

[MrRolltide91]

Was there a demand for a rematch???

[QueensburyRules]

U like pornography with your Metamucil?

- -We already get U too stoopid to understand that era Playboy never did ****.

We also understand U don't know shhh about Ali, but U a good poor man imitation of a boner shoulder roll.