Comments Thread For: Joseph Parker Rocks, Shocks Deontay Wilder For Decision Win, Derails Joshua Fight

[fast fists]

To all the septics who where saying who the **** is parker and how did he get on this card well now you know

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder throws when he sees you're in position. If he sees you're not in position he pulls the punch. You saw that all night long. That's how he's been since he stopped windmilling (which was a mistake). The way he sets that up is to blind you with a feint glove, then land. That didn't work because Parker repeated the same steps every time regardless of whether it was a feint or a legit throw.

Look at Wilder against Fury in the first fight. It was the same damn sequence there too. He didn't commit to the right hand until he saw Fury was in the perfect position to land it; and even then Fury was smart enough to duck into it which lessened the impact of it and why Fury was so successful in the second fight because Wilder hadn't changed it up. Which is what Parker did. Which is why Parker gave Fury the shoutout.

Parker kept moving TOWARDS Wilder when he saw Wilder was about to throw or was mid-throw. If you move forward and dip, you're making Wilder second guess his aim and/or completely miss because as I've said for years, Wilder needs distance - range - to be confident in landing.

So either it's a guy moving backward (Helenius, Fury, Stiverne, Washington, etc.), coming forward in straight line (Szpilka, Breezy, Ortiz, etc.), or just standing there to take the shot (Malik Scott). Anything else and Wilder is ripe for the picking.

Parker did the one thing very few fighters think to do against a power puncher: dip and move forward, which takes away range, smothers the power even if he does land and makes you think the guy is on the attack while evading incoming bombs. It's something Mike Tyson would do at times - he did that against MItch 'Blood' Green most notably.

You'd have to be a crazy good "down puncher" to be able to deal with that, and the only real quality down puncher of the modern era is Terence Crawford.

Wilder used to be decently good at dealing with that, when he fought Arreola. But Arreola was slower than Parker and Wilder no longer fights that way (which he should have against Parker because it would have completely thrown off Parker's strategy).

Very well said.

[Johnny Rubber]

Towel-squad have left the building

[eco1]

Agreed that Parker did well. But I did think Wilder looked way worse than normal. Don't forget almost no one has been able to hit Fury - but Wilder managed it a ton of times and put him down too. He even landed that 3 punch combo on Fury that put Fury down first fight after putting a read on where Fury moves his head. I expect Wilder to be a lot better next time. He will probably throw caution to the wind. One thing I was impressed with was Wilder's chin. He's a skinny guy but he took some hard shots from Parker with ease. Definitely got exposed a bit though.

If everyone judged Wlad on his punch-shy performance against Fury he would be a terrible fighter. But next fight against AJ he put caution to the wind and went for it. Sometimes it takes a loss to take that pressure off

He wasn't fighting a tomato can.
The only times he has stepped up he has lost.

[Roberto Vasquez]

He wasn't fighting a tomato can.
The only times he has stepped up he has lost.

I still think you are going too far. Just as one Wilder win doesnt make him an all-time great, one loss doesn't make him a massive loser either. Parker is the only opponent he hasn't put down his whole career. Even the other top boxers against lower ranked guys - there are boxers they couldn't put down.

IF Wilder keeps fighting - you will see a much improved and proactive version next time. But like I said Wilder was never as a good as he was portrayed. He just avoided a lot of top-10 guys. But he is still a very good fighter

[JakeTheBoxer]

But he is still a very good fighter

I don`t know about that. Is he? he stepped up twice to face elite level opponents and failed badly.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I don`t know about that. Is he? he stepped up twice to face elite level opponents and failed badly.

Did he fail badly against Fury? With a different ref he would have won the first fight and Fury was saved by the bell in the 3rd fight. No one has given Fury that hard of a fight. In the first fight there about 1 punch landed per round difference between them.

The guy also has a bronze medal in the Olympics. More than Fury ever got.( Fury didn't even qualify for the olympics).

All it would take is for Wilder to have one great result and everyone on this forum will think he beats all-comers again...

[JakeTheBoxer]

Did he fail badly against Fury? With a different ref he would have won the first fight and Fury was saved by the bell in the 3rd fight. No one has given Fury that hard of a fight. In the first fight there about 1 punch landed per round difference between them.

The guy also has a bronze medal in the Olympics. More than Fury ever got.( Fury didn't even qualify for the olympics).

All it would take is for Wilder to have one great result and everyone on this forum will think he beats all-comers again...

How is he good? I have just seen him doing nothing for 12 rounds. He is nothing, he is a bum.

How is the guy that does nothing in 12 rounds good, can you explain that to me?

He is a bum. If he fought under cruiserweight, he would be a journeyman.

[pollywog]

All it would take is for Wilder to have one great result and everyone on this forum will think he beats all-comers again...

The best result would be for him to retire so punters can wax lyrical about how prime Wilder was the hardest hitting champion ever who would have destroyed every other champ by knockout.

He's at serious risk of becoming the body on his own record otherwise.

[Roberto Vasquez]

How is he good? I have just seen him doing nothing for 12 rounds. He is nothing, he is a bum.

How is the guy that does nothing in 12 rounds good, can you explain that to me?

He is a bum. If he fought under cruiserweight, he would be a journeyman.

No one can you seriously saying things like that. I have been very critical of Wilder but I can see what he does well. Almost no one is faster than him in the HWs and no one hits harder. Everyone he faces know they have to avoid his big shots but only one fighter has ever avoided them. Fury said Wilder could never hit him - but he got put down 4 times and hit a lot.

This is just the usual over-reaction to a loss you see on these forums.