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    Newbie: weight lifting and boxing

    Hi all,

    So I am looking to start boxing Wednesday I have done it before but years ago when I was young and only for a few months. I'm now 26 and decided I want to give it a shot maybe have a few ametuer fights if I get good enough.

    My question is currently all I do is weight training split over 5 days mon-chest tue-back weds-rest thu-shoulder fri-arms sat-legs. Generally my rep range is 6-10 dependant on if it's a compound movement with more isolated movements being around the 12 rep range.

    If I am now going to attempt boxing I need to shift this around and potential change the way I train as at present I train for muscle mass and strength.

    I will be going to start the boxing on a Wednesday night and I need to find out from experienced people what would be the best way to incorporate my weight training, if I should even be weight training, how many days a week should I work out and what type of exercises I should be performing and at what rep range.

    For now it's just one day at the boxing club a week and if they think I am any good or have a shot they will move me in to the competition training which will be 2 days a week at the boxing club but I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

    Thanks in advance.

    #2
    If you bodybuild properly you won't be able to box on your rest and recovery days to any kind of standard. so it is one or the other.

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      #3
      Sorry guys, I did state though I may need to switch it up.

      All I need to no is what would be a recommended workout split including the Wednesday and what sort of workout should I be aiming towards. I understand I would not be able to do the current workout plan I use at the moment so just seeing if anyone could guide me in the right direction to what I should be doing.

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        #4
        Your routine needs to be centred around squats and deadlifts,they work the entire body and core.You don't need to work chest, but some shoulder and tricep work is OK. Battle ropes are good and smash ball drills. Your workouts need to be more movement centred building functional muscle.

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          #5
          Stop the weights and commit to the sport if that's what you want to do.
          Weight training will NOT help you as you begin in boxing training.
          I was a trainer for 50 years use your own body weight for strength exercises;
          sit ups
          pull ups
          twists etc all used with different angles and grips that amounts to 50 different forms.
          To "learn" boxing you don't need to lift weights, if this is all recreational then do what you want. If you came to me to learn first you pay a lot being 26 years old and beyond being able to learn and digest. You'd have to many questions that needed answers and slow the process down to a crawl.
          So now that I've said that..........................lift what you want to, have a beer too!
          Ray.

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            #6
            Thanks for the replies, I've been looking into it and it appears your right with the body weight routines. I am happy to make the transition from weights to boxing as this was the idea of me changing sports for a new challenge. I am going to keep it down to 3 - 4 workouts max see how I get on.

            My nutrition is on point, I need to improve my cardio for sure and with the right training I am looking forward to the challenge ahead. I just like to be in the know so I can prep myself for what lies ahead.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Isaac Hunt View Post
              Your routine needs to be centred around squats and deadlifts,they work the entire body and core.You don't need to work chest, but some shoulder and tricep work is OK. Battle ropes are good and smash ball drills. Your workouts need to be more movement centred building functional muscle.
              This ^^^^^^

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                #8
                If you want to do both you will probably only be able to lift 2-3 days a week. I'd say your best bet is to switch to a push/pull/legs split with a rest between each day.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Benshearer View Post
                  Thanks for the replies, I've been looking into it and it appears your right with the body weight routines. I am happy to make the transition from weights to boxing as this was the idea of me changing sports for a new challenge. I am going to keep it down to 3 - 4 workouts max see how I get on.

                  My nutrition is on point, I need to improve my cardio for sure and with the right training I am looking forward to the challenge ahead. I just like to be in the know so I can prep myself for what lies ahead.
                  I think you should stick to boxing. For conditioning look into MMA workouts,battle ropes and smash ball workouts. Really high intensity 1 minute pad work with a minute break gets you used to fight tempo. There is a lot of research which shows you are better off with high intensity short workouts rather than long low intensity stuff like distance running. You want the workouts to replicate your event. Define what you are doing,so if is working on technique build up slowly and do it right. If it is conditioning,form can be off but that is not the objective. train with a purpose and plan.
                  Listen to your body,you are better of with less but high quality workouts than more low quality stuff. Focus on quality training and doing everything your boxing coach teaches you right. Quality erodes when you overtrain.If you feel your form deteriates when the workouts get long you are spending too much time in the gym.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Isaac Hunt View Post
                    Your routine needs to be centred around squats and deadlifts,they work the entire body and core.You don't need to work chest, but some shoulder and tricep work is OK. Battle ropes are good and smash ball drills. Your workouts need to be more movement centred building functional muscle.
                    completely agree, especially coordination of whole body.

                    Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
                    Stop the weights and commit to the sport if that's what you want to do.
                    Weight training will NOT help you as you begin in boxing training.
                    I was a trainer for 50 years use your own body weight for strength exercises;
                    sit ups
                    pull ups
                    twists etc all used with different angles and grips that amounts to 50 different forms.
                    To "learn" boxing you don't need to lift weights, if this is all recreational then do what you want. If you came to me to learn first you pay a lot being 26 years old and beyond being able to learn and digest. You'd have to many questions that needed answers and slow the process down to a crawl.
                    So now that I've said that..........................lift what you want to, have a beer too!
                    Ray.
                    agree even more than previous quote.
                    drop the weights, bodyweight exercises are more than enough. UNLESS you really have a ****ty foundation of skin and bones...

                    my opinion in conclusion:
                    bodyweight exercises only, unless you have a poor foundation that is difficult to strengthen without weights (ie lower back/core).
                    build fast twitch muscles (ie work on explosiveness).
                    focus on exercises that improve your ful body coordination

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