unbanned, and back with some questions :)!

[nivek535]

i got a question!!
ive been hearing "dont bend from ur waist, jst use ur knees" when i slip/duck punches..
the ppl who told me train muaythai, but sparred with me boxing only. im wondering if i should take their advice. dont bend from my waist, and use knees only? (i do knees + waist)

question 2!
how exactly should i throw a jab to body? bend knees, "lean" with the jab? or simply bend straight down, shoot the jab striaght out...? i always(?) see pro boxers lean with their jab to body. but i always hear "dont lean" in the gym. (i dont feel off balance when i do this)

[{Pito}]

Kevin different things work for different people. There is no set style in stone and in a fights things change on the fly and something might work that you were never taught and vice versa. Just do what your coach tells you and get some sparring. With sparring you'll learn your craft to apply in competition.

[nivek535]

Kevin different things work for different people. There is no set style in stone and in a fights things change on the fly and something might work that you were never taught and vice versa. Just do what your coach tells you and get some sparring. With sparring you'll learn your craft to apply in competition.

thanks but how u know im kevin :P?

(dont mind me doing numbered lists)
1. "There is no set style..." I very much agree with you!! My philosophy in boxing and in life is being able to constantly adapt to changes . the "style" that constantly adapts is the "best style".

2.1 "Just do what your coach tells..." for today's case, my coach wasnt here. it was 2 other muay thai students telling me not to bend with my waist... (i bend with knees + waist). i'm pretty sure nothing significant landed when i slipped/ducked... but they constantly tell me that... im not sure why.. which is one of the reasons why im here.
MAIN POINT HERE: i didnt feel like i got tagged with anything good, BUT do they say this because they felt like they could have landed a big shot(?) (by bending at the waist [still keeping vision]) (sparring wasnt recorded unfortunately..) this is a generic question. bend at waist to jab or not? if it simply depends on situations, then just say it depends is fine. but if its like 99% no-bend, then say no bend

2.2 "Just do what your coach tells..." i agree for the most part, but like the first point mentioned... there is no set style..
and also, as a skeptical, knowledge-hungry person, i can't help but ask questions here :P. #passion!!
an example i can think of is: "never drop your lead hand"
before i get yelled at... yes as a beginner, its best to do so. BUT, there are advantages with it. such as: BALANCE/body coordination.. if beginners never step out the comfort zone to try it, how will they ever leave that beginner zone...


3. "With sparring you'll learn..." I've actually done a lot of sparring in/out of gym (controlled, not some crazy backyard boxing on youtube). and what i've noticed is.. SOMETIMES, if i jab too often to the body, i get caught by a (mostly insignificant?) right hand (ortho vs ortho).

[Fr3$h]

Probably because your screen name is Kevin spelled backwards.

I train at a gym which is a mixture of Boxing and Muay Thai. Some of those guys are masters of one and have no clue about the other.

You don't bend your waist very much in Muay Thai because that puts too much weight on your front leg, which can result in it being severely damaged or even broken in half if someone kicks it while all of your weight is on it.

Say you have an axe and you swing it full force. One target is a wooden board firmly planted in the ground (you cleave right through it). The other is a wooden board hanging from a string (you barely scratch it and probably injure yourself instead). That's the basic theory of defending against leg kicks in kickboxing and the reason you center your upper-body weight.

This doesn't apply to boxing at all, where your legs don't need defense and their sole purpose is maximizing the efficiency of your punches/ring movement.

The stances are very different for very specific reasons.

[nivek535]

Probably because your screen name is Kevin spelled backwards.

I train at a gym which is a mixture of Boxing and Muay Thai. Some of those guys are masters of one and have no clue about the other.

You don't bend your waist very much in Muay Thai because that puts too much weight on your front leg, which can result in it being severely damaged or even broken in half if someone kicks it while all of your weight is on it.

Say you have an axe and you swing it full force. One target is a wooden board firmly planted in the ground (you cleave right through it). The other is a wooden board hanging from a string (you barely scratch it and probably injure yourself instead). That's the basic theory of defending against leg kicks in kickboxing and the reason you center your upper-body weight.

This doesn't apply to boxing at all, where your legs don't need defense and their sole purpose is maximizing the efficiency of your punches/ring movement.

The stances are very different for very specific reasons.

ooh jee u decoded the impossible .
and i see, but considering their ages... i dont think they considered that... for now.. i think i will stick to my way of boxing until i see what they mean... i shoould probably record my sparring sessions :/

[mikey1990]

Get some sparring done and listen to your coach

[Half_Step]

just a hunch, if you bend at the waste in mma/muay thai ur putting yourself in a position to catch knees to the face. a lot of people try to teach you sht without telling you why - which is ridiculous. always ask why they tell you to do something - if they can't.. then chances are you should learn from elsewhere.