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    More heavy bag work

    Here's a couple more rounds from the other day. Not the best workout, ground was wet, bag was wet, and I didn't feel 100%, but hey, you take the good with the bad. But on the bright side, the light was a little better, lol. As always, any feedback is welcomed and thanks for taking the time to watch.


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    #2
    Bag is a 12" to 16" to low!
    Get a garbage bag and cover your bag when it's not in use.
    Your "hunched" over to much, stand straight up/ slight bend in your waist, and in your knees with your chin down and your eyes looking upward.
    You reach for the bag, why?
    Step into the bag and stop bouncing away from it.
    You NEVER pronate your punches, why? (face your wrist down upon impact) your arm punching!!!
    Your target should be "through" the bag not the surface in front of you!

    That's enough stuff to work on for a month..
    Start slow and build up speed once the techniques are understood.

    clean up your training area, there shouldn't be leaves or dirt in the bag area. Good training....
    Ray

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      #3
      Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
      Bag is a 12" to 16" to low!
      Get a garbage bag and cover your bag when it's not in use.
      Your "hunched" over to much, stand straight up/ slight bend in your waist, and in your knees with your chin down and your eyes looking upward.
      You reach for the bag, why?
      Step into the bag and stop bouncing away from it.
      You NEVER pronate your punches, why? (face your wrist down upon impact) your arm punching!!!
      Your target should be "through" the bag not the surface in front of you!

      That's enough stuff to work on for a month..
      Start slow and build up speed once the techniques are understood.

      clean up your training area, there shouldn't be leaves or dirt in the bag area. Good training....
      Ray
      Thanks for the advice, Ray. Not much I can do about the bag height, until I can get an actual stand for it. I do need to take those leaves out the way, with so many trees around it's a never ending battle. I'll work on the things you pointed out with my technique, too. Thanks for your insight and evaluation

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        #4
        If you're looking for a critique, you're throwing your weight too far forward. Some guys put their weight on the front foot and, while I'm not of that school, I can respect it. What I'm talking about though is getting off-balance. Your center gets too far forward and when someone is punching back, it makes it extremely tough to stay upright, absorb punches, etc.

        There is a push-pull to most combinations. Your jab pushes the right arm and shoulder out. Then, when your straight left fires, your jab should be coming back and the motion of pulling your right arm and shoulder back creates a shift that helps push your straight left forward faster and harder. Right now, your right just drops and instead of pulling that shoulder back, your weight all gets dumped forward. Because the weight is all forward, the right hook has no real power because it is losing out on the push-pull exchange of power. After shooting that straight left, pulling the left arm/shoulder back and pushing with the right foot is what creates a devastating hook.

        Watch the way Genady pulls his right back as he throws his left hook. It's not only good defensive form, but it keeps him upright and the turning motion is helping even more power sink into that hook. If he were leaning forward with that right shoulder low, he's not have that same force and speed.


        Another example of shifting weight (the "push-pull"). As Golovkin slips to the left, he loads up on his left foot. Pushing with that left leg and pulling his right shoulder back, he generates a KO left hook.


        Mike Tyson is one of the best examples to watch when it comes to shifting weight and staying upright. The example below shows how shifting weight isn't just a left/right thing. He hits the right hook to the body and then, dips just a little on the right side to load up the right uppercut. It only takes a little dip. Look where the power is. It's not in his arm. It's in his legs, ass, traveling through the hips and upper body as it twists and goes through the arm, which just serves as a bettering ram.
        Doubling on one side takes away the predictability of left/right/left/right (note that Mayweather's opponents sometimes caught him with the second left or right because his defensive routines often relied on left/right alternating attacks).
        [IMG]http://media.*****.com/media/b2RuMdkPRMnjq/*****.gif[/IMG]
        Last edited by Redd Foxx; 12-14-2016, 05:45 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
          If you're looking for a critique, you're throwing your weight too far forward. Some guys put their weight on the front foot and, while I'm not of that school, I can respect it. What I'm talking about though is getting off-balance. Your center gets too far forward and when someone is punching back, it makes it extremely tough to stay upright, absorb punches, etc.

          There is a push-pull to most combinations. Your jab pushes the right arm and shoulder out. Then, when your straight left fires, your jab should be coming back and the motion of pulling your right arm and shoulder back creates a shift that helps push your straight left forward faster and harder. Right now, your right just drops and instead of pulling that shoulder back, your weight all gets dumped forward. Because the weight is all forward, the right hook has no real power because it is losing out on the push-pull exchange of power. After shooting that straight left, pulling the left arm/shoulder back and pushing with the right foot is what creates a devastating hook.

          Watch the way Genady pulls his right back as he throws his left hook. It's not only good defensive form, but it keeps him upright and the turning motion is helping even more power sink into that hook. If he were leaning forward with that right shoulder low, he's not have that same force and speed.


          Another example of shifting weight (the "push-pull"). As Golovkin slips to the left, he loads up on his left foot. Pushing with that left leg and pulling his right shoulder back, he generates a KO left hook.


          Mike Tyson is one of the best examples to watch when it comes to shifting weight and staying upright. The example below shows how shifting weight isn't just a left/right thing. He hits the right hook to the body and then, dips just a little on the right side to load up the right uppercut. It only takes a little dip. Look where the power is. It's not in his arm. It's in his legs, ass, traveling through the hips and upper body as it twists and goes through the arm, which just serves as a bettering ram.
          Doubling on one side takes away the predictability of left/right/left/right (note that Mayweather's opponents sometimes caught him with the second left or right because his defensive routines often relied on left/right alternating attacks).
          [IMG]http://media.*****.com/media/b2RuMdkPRMnjq/*****.gif[/IMG]
          Awesome feedback. I appreciate it and understand what you're talking about. I need to work on my balance and pulling back more after throwing punches. I'll work on it and hopefully the next video will be better

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            #6
            you hve good stamina and cong**** for that. in my hummble but asked for opinion - that bag being too low is screwing up your form big time. it is causing you to, as the other writers said, lean forward and put your weight over your front foot way too much. you need to pit less wieght on front foot, especially when throwing a cross. when throwing the cross, your feet are too far apart and you are not pivoting your hips. when you throw the cross, your strength should be coming from a hip rotation. imagine you are squishing a bug with the toe of your rear foot as you pivot your hips. you are punching only with your arms no strength in that method. stop bending at the waste and bend at the knees instead. also, breath out when you punch. that's enough for a month of practicing. but ge that bag higher! that low bag is going to build in really bad muscle memory of poor form that will be hard for you to reprogram later on.

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              #7
              Originally posted by mkmona04 View Post
              you hve good stamina and cong**** for that. in my hummble but asked for opinion - that bag being too low is screwing up your form big time. it is causing you to, as the other writers said, lean forward and put your weight over your front foot way too much. you need to pit less wieght on front foot, especially when throwing a cross. when throwing the cross, your feet are too far apart and you are not pivoting your hips. when you throw the cross, your strength should be coming from a hip rotation. imagine you are squishing a bug with the toe of your rear foot as you pivot your hips. you are punching only with your arms no strength in that method. stop bending at the waste and bend at the knees instead. also, breath out when you punch. that's enough for a month of practicing. but ge that bag higher! that low bag is going to build in really bad muscle memory of poor form that will be hard for you to reprogram later on.
              Thanks for the advice, bro. I do wish I could move the bag up, I see where it's messing me up some, I just don't have the money for a stand atm. I am trying to work on keeping more weight on my back foot and not hunching as much. I'm also trying to work on twisting my hips and pulling my lead shoulder back on the left, as well as turning my body into the lead hook.

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                #8
                I worked on the lead hook and trying to turn my body into it the other day and stated feeling pain in the middle of my back around the t****zium. Is this common? I had the same pain a while back and I believe it's part of the reason I haven't been putting as much body into my shots. Any suggestions or advice guys? Thanks in advance

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                  #9
                  would you guys saying the bag isnt moving because he has excellent technique or because the punches are not powerful enough?


                  I know its not meant to be a push but shouldnt a small bag like that fly off? Even with a quality punch small bags just go flying?

                  (might be a sign of my error I muscle way more than I want to)

                  Your punches are fast nice n crisp, good hip control, your defense against straight punches leaning in like that is ace, very vunerable to uppercuts, I know its the bag height partly, also you have chosen not to transfer weight on the rear punch?

                  Great work rate shows good hip control and no muscling!
                  Last edited by AlexKid; 12-22-2016, 08:44 PM.

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                    #10
                    Theres no way to punch through the bag/more weight into it unless you get a bigger bag...or somehow make the bag more weighted down add some type of stringed weight on the bottom because that bag will go flying all over.

                    others have said bag is low for your height,a longer one would put less pressure on your back because you are trying to hit the bottom more and are losing body twist by hunching over ,thats where the heavy part is ( bottom )and you have a bigger target with longer targets. Without that i would advise concentrating on body shots mostly thats something you can dig into that type of bag ,trying to set up the jab on a bag you are bigger than is difficult.

                    Always best to concentrate on one good hard shot than alot of flurries,it will help you abandon arm punching. You'll see a differance when you get a better bag.


                    god stuff i'll be posting more in a bit sometime after the new years.

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