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    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Huh. Not only did I answer your question directly with No, I then put his whole quote in the response showing you that he said more than that to justify my answer of No.

    What do I mean by no? I mean you are dishonestly trying to make that piece of what he said all that he said.

    You are parsing out the whole quote because it clearly shows he is clarifying that piece.

    Have I directly answered your question?

    I asked you about the specific quote that I parsed out. But you can’t even man up and say yes, he said that. Even if you want to elaborate further on what else he said.

    You’re just being dishonest, Dunn. Because if a black person is involved you put that above anything else, including truth and logic. Which is a bad thing.

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      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

      I asked you about the specific quote that I parsed out. But you can’t even man up and say yes, he said that. Even if you want to elaborate further on what else he said.

      You’re just being dishonest, Dunn. Because if a black person is involved you put that above anything else, including truth and logic. Which is a bad thing.
      Yeah parsing it out is dishonest Shoulder and you know it. You are pretending that is all he said without clarifying it.

      Why dude? What do you gain by being dishonest like this?

      Naw. Just because you guys have racial issues doesn’t mean I am doing that. I literally said the all black oj jury was wrong.

      You guys have always been pro cop except in two situations- the Capitol police killing the M A G A intruder and the black cop that killed the white woman in Minnesota. Very telling that you shift allegiance when race or politics is involved.

      Besides, the Chauvin Jury wasn’t all black. It was extremely diverse.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 05-08-2025, 02:10 PM.

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        Originally posted by Richard Richardson View Post

        he sat in the police car a year earlier, it must have intensified very quickly.what is more likely to have intensified is the grotesque amount of fentanyl and meth he was consuming
        Ok.

        You tried and you failed.

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          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          Shoulder he didn’t say he did. You are interpreting what he said that way just to argue it.

          He didn’t say what you’re saying here. He used a lot of if’s and coulds. You also parsed part of the article without going to the bottom where he clarifies all of this.

          Ahh got it- he clarifies his points because he is under oath and didn’t want to perjure himself. you float the idiotic conspiracy with no proof that It might be because of what black people outside might do.

          Damn man, your hatred is making you post insane stuff.
          Shoulder is lying as usual.

          He claimed the doctor might have changed up his story after B-LM began rioting.

          If he did any research, he'd know the autopsy was completed the next day after Floyd died.


          Oops. Funny how they want to pick and choose some things from the doctor, but they ignore the doctor's final word on the issue. I wonder why.
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            Dozens of knee "victims"
            1 fatality

            Something was wrong with that neck

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              Originally posted by travestyny View Post

              Shoulder is lying as usual.

              He claimed the doctor might have changed up his story after B-LM began rioting.

              If he did any research, he'd know the autopsy was completed the next day after Floyd died.


              Oops. Funny how they want to pick and choose some things from the doctor, but they ignore the doctor's final word on the issue. I wonder why.
              Wrong.

              George Floyd died on May 25. The preliminary findings of the medical examiner named Floyd’s heart disease and the drugs in his system as factors in his death. And found no evidence of asphyxia or strangulation.

              The final autopsy report listing homicide as the cause of death didn’t come out until June 1. After days of B.L.M thugs rioting and political pressure against those initial findings.

              The doctor very well could have been pressured to change his tune.


              “Nationwide, people expressed outrage when prosecutors released the preliminary findings of George Floyd's autopsy, highlighting cardiovascular disease and "potential intoxicants" in his system, as if those factors might explain his death as police officers pinned him to the ground.

              The findings contained just one mention of physical trauma, noting that Floyd's body showed no signs of asphyxia or strangulation. The public and some medical professionals cried foul, putting Dr. Andrew Baker, Hennepin County's medical examiner, squarely in the hot seat…

              Facing a public outcry, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison took over the prosecution two days before the full autopsy was released.​”


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                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                What do you mean no?

                That was literally what he said.

                The fact that you can't answer simple yes or no questions and try to weasel out of them is not a good look.


                Are you genuinely not aware that you've literally done exactly this probably north of 100 times in recent memory?

                Your self awareness cannot be that low?
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                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  No. He said the following;

                  "If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3," Baker told investigators.

                  In another new document, Baker said, "That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."

                  But then Baker added, "I am not saying this killed him."​

                  You can’t parse out a piece and make it seem like he said nothing before or after it to clarify his position.

                  You’re making yourself look extremely bad here.
                  I've no horse in this race, or looked into this case extensively, or anywhere close to an expert on recreational drugs, but I am some what interested.

                  From what I can gather here, the expert is saying the level of drugs in his system was an amount that is deemed fatal, right? That seems clear.

                  They're also saying that that doesn't necessarily mean that that is what killed him in this case (from what I presume is due to the other moving parts such as force used etc), but, they are saying that the amount in his system is in fact an amount deemed fatal. Or am I missing something?

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                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                    Wrong.

                    George Floyd died on May 25. The preliminary findings of the medical examiner named Floyd’s heart disease and the drugs in his system as factors in his death. And found no evidence of asphyxia or strangulation.

                    The final autopsy report listing homicide as the cause of death didn’t come out until June 1. After days of B.L.M thugs rioting and political pressure against those initial findings.

                    The doctor very well could have been pressured to change his tune.


                    “Nationwide, people expressed outrage when prosecutors released the preliminary findings of George Floyd's autopsy, highlighting cardiovascular disease and "potential intoxicants" in his system, as if those factors might explain his death as police officers pinned him to the ground.

                    The findings contained just one mention of physical trauma, noting that Floyd's body showed no signs of asphyxia or strangulation. The public and some medical professionals cried foul, putting Dr. Andrew Baker, Hennepin County's medical examiner, squarely in the hot seat…

                    Facing a public outcry, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison took over the prosecution two days before the full autopsy was released.​”


                    Get ready to make up another excuse, dumbass. Look at the dates





                    12 hours later. Now admit that you were wrong. Let's see what other excuses you got.
                    Last edited by travestyny; 05-09-2025, 02:45 AM.

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                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                      I've no horse in this race, or looked into this case extensively, or anywhere close to an expert on recreational drugs, but I am some what interested.

                      From what I can gather here, the expert is saying the level of drugs in his system was an amount that is deemed fatal, right? That seems clear.

                      They're also saying that that doesn't necessarily mean that that is what killed him in this case (from what I presume is due to the other moving parts such as force used etc), but, they are saying that the amount in his system is in fact an amount deemed fatal. Or am I missing something?
                      He's saying that if nothing else was known, for instance, if they had just found GF home dead, they would presume he died of an overdose because that amount could kill someone, particularly if they don't have the tolerance for it. But since they did have other information, an overdose was ruled out.

                      1. GF showed no signs of an overdose. He was awake, alert, talking, all which would not happen with an overdose.
                      2. His respiratory rate was normal. With an overdose, his respiratory rate would be 40% less than normal.
                      3. His toxicology report included norfentanyl, which means his body was actively processing the fentanyl, which is not the case with people who are overdosing.
                      4. There was no fluid in his lungs which is typically seen in overdose deaths.

                      If these guys would have watched the trial and listened to experts, they would know all of this. Instead, they are posting based on their feelings.

                      Just looking at the video it's easy to see he wasn't overdosing. Below is what an overdose victim looks like. GF would not have been able to fight for his life if he was OD-ing.


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