Why is Duran considered the greatest LW?

[Marcov]

To say Duran was one of the best lightweights ever is underating him! It easy to look back at his incredible record now and say who did he beat? But at the time he was clearing the best guys over and over again for years. You have to remember he was the undisputed champ. So to fight him you had to really earn a shot unlike today. His run as the only champion was very long and for quite awhile he held a record for consecitive knockouts in title defences and did it by fighting the best over an amazing time period.

[GJC]

I think Pea & Mosley would beat Duran at LW, controversial but i do.

Sweetpea would be a good fight I think Duran has too much for Mosley

[Kut]

Every Elite or ATG has a good or very good chance to beat Duran....
- if he was fat, partying and celebrating is fame too much. Duran lost to Esteban De Jesus, and a simlarity was the second NoMas-Fight. Before he lost to Esteban he beat Buchanan, the same goes for SRL. Both wins were very memorable, and from what I have read, and I am a big Fan, Durans discipline and work ethic was gone and he needed to have a break up.

Duran was an extreme guy, with highs and lows. I really dont know much about Gans, Benny Leonard or Armstrong. All are great fightes. But a Mosley or Sweat Pea are no match for a prime Duran at Lw.

[Dynamite Kid]

Every Elite or ATG has a good or very good chance to beat Duran....
- if he was fat, partying and celebrating is fame too much. Duran lost to Esteban De Jesus, and a simlarity was the second NoMas-Fight. Before he lost to Esteban he beat Buchanan, the same goes for SRL. Both wins were very memorable, and from what I have read, and I am a big Fan, Durans discipline and work ethic was gone and he needed to have a break up.

Duran was an extreme guy, with highs and lows. I really dont know much about Gans, Benny Leonard or Armstrong. All are great fightes. But a Mosley or Sweat Pea are no match for a prime Duran at Lw.

But a Mosley or Sweat Pea are no match for a prime Duran at Lw.
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Whitaker is a match for anyone at LW, he did not just beat people he white washed them.

[Kut]

But a Mosley or Sweat Pea are no match for a prime Duran at Lw.
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Whitaker is a match for anyone at LW, he did not just beat people he white washed them.

Of course Whitaker did, but I dont know, how long he will keep the intelligent bull away from him. Even Pernell scooled some good punchers, I dont think that any of them was a harder puncher than Duran, and a prime Duran wasnt just relentless and a hard hitter, but also fast and overwhelming. I hardly can think about Pernell make Duran look like a fool for 12 rounds and never in 15.
Duran could also adapt his style to a certain degree. Sometimes he was patient and waited to counterpunch or stalk you.

But if there is somebody who can win a decission than it is problaby Whitaker.

[Dynamite Kid]

Of course Whitaker did, but I dont know, how long he will keep the intelligent bull away from him. Even Pernell scooled some good punchers, I dont think that any of them was a harder puncher than Duran, and a prime Duran wasnt just relentless and a hard hitter, but also fast and overwhelming. I hardly can think about Pernell make Duran look like a fool for 12 rounds and never in 15.
Duran could also adapt his style to a certain degree. Sometimes he was patient and waited to counterpunch or stalk you.

But if there is somebody who can win a decission than it is problaby Whitaker.

What about Vasquez a 154 pounder who hammered Winky Wright to the canvas multiple times or Pineda, McGirt, Nelson, DLH, Tito? Duran was not a devastating puncher imo.


Duran's would not be able overwhelm Whitaker, he (Whitaker) is too smart to allow that and he would pick holes in Duran's wreckless aggression imo.

Nelson, Chavez are just as relentless as Duran was.

[Kut]

What about Vasquez a 154 pounder who hammered Winky Wright to the canvas multiple times or Pineda, McGirt, Nelson, DLH, Tito? Duran was not a devastating puncher imo.


Duran's would not be able overwhelm Whitaker, he (Whitaker) is too smart to allow that and he would pick holes in Duran's wreckless aggression imo.

Nelson, Chavez are just as relentless as Duran was.

Vasquez was indeed a hard hitter, as the others. But I was talking about Lw. Otherwise I would have give the argument, that even a Marvin Hagler was respecting the right of (a fat) Duran. I do not think, that some of that above mentioned guys could rock an Iran Barlkey.

Concerning Winky, you also have to think about Winkys situation and that fight was his first real against a top fighter.

Duran didnt have so many spectacular Kos, but his shots were more than solid. SRL called them brick walls. If he was hitting, he was dealing damage. His bodywork was first class and he always found way to deal damage.

For me Durans Offense is nearly as good as Pernells Defense. Pernells Offense would be his super Jab ( I do think his power is very underrated but he cant heart Duran) and quickness. And Durans defense was very good as you know. Slipping, countering, putting pressure, a good left hook, bombing right hand, good and fast combinations and pressure.
I think he can win a decission against Pernell and maybe KO him late. The tools were their.

[TheGreatA]

Duran does have one of the best KO highlight reels at 135.















Of course KO'ing Pernell Whitaker would be entirely different. I can't see that happening to be honest.

[Dynamite Kid]

Vasquez was indeed a hard hitter, as the others. But I was talking about Lw. Otherwise I would have give the argument, that even a Marvin Hagler was respecting the right of (a fat) Duran. I do not think, that some of that above mentioned guys could rock an Iran Barlkey.

Concerning Winky, you also have to think about Winkys situation and that fight was his first real against a top fighter.

Duran didnt have so many spectacular Kos, but his shots were more than solid. SRL called them brick walls. If he was hitting, he was dealing damage. His bodywork was first class and he always found way to deal damage.

For me Durans Offense is nearly as good as Pernells Defense. Pernells Offense would be his super Jab ( I do think his power is very underrated but he cant heart Duran) and quickness. And Durans defense was very good as you know. Slipping, countering, putting pressure, a good left hook, bombing right hand, good and fast combinations and pressure.
I think he can win a decission against Pernell and maybe KO him late. The tools were their.

You were talking about LW's? but Vasquez was a LMW so why would you bring up that you were talking about a LW, if he can take Vasquez's shot whom whipped the canvas with Winky, then im pretty sure he can handle the power of a good if not spectacular punching power of a LW Duran.

McGirt, Trinidad, Nelson DLH, Pinda hit as hard as Duran and harder in Tito, DLH's case.

Thats irrelevant, Winky still had a great chin or he would not have survived, Whitaker is a LW and Vasquez could not hurt him, goes to show Pea dont need to worry about the fire power Duran brings.

Duran was punishing puncher rather a devastating puncher imo. You have to be able to land on Whitaker before you can even think about taking him out, bigger guys and bigger punchers than Duran have tried and failed. Even if you get Whitaker in trouble he is illusive enough to make it difficult for you to follow up.


Duran is no where near smart enough or hard hitting enough to pin Whitaker down and KO him, i would put my house on it. Duran could win a decision but id put my money on Pea personally, that said there is now way Duran is knocking him out.

[Kut]

You were talking about LW's? but Vasquez was a LMW so why would you bring up that you were talking about a LW, if he can take Vasquez's shot whom whipped the canvas with Winky, then im pretty sure he can handle the power of a good if not spectacular punching power of a LW Duran.

McGirt, Trinidad, Nelson DLH, Pinda hit as hard as Duran and harder in Tito, DLH's case.

Thats irrelevant, Winky still had a great chin or he would not have survived, Whitaker is a LW and Vasquez could not hurt him, goes to show Pea dont need to worry about the fire power Duran brings.

Duran was punishing puncher rather a devastating puncher imo. You have to be able to land on Whitaker before you can even think about taking him out, bigger guys and bigger punchers than Duran have tried and failed. Even if you get Whitaker in trouble he is illusive enough to make it difficult for you to follow up.


Duran is no where near smart enough or hard hitting enough to pin Whitaker down and KO him, i would put my house on it. Duran could win a decision but id put my money on Pea personally, that said there is now way Duran is knocking him out.

I do not have more arguments and of course I do not have more knowledge about boxing than you But I still favour a prime Duran at Lightweight over Pernel. Pernel has very good chances to beat Duran, but imo Duran could win more rounds with his aggressive style. If he would mix it up, beeing aggressive and stalking, he would have good chances to beat Pernel. I think I have some arguments and you too.