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    Boxing and Weightlifting

    Many people that just start out boxing are told by their trainers at the local gym not to lift weights. They say the only exercises that should be done for strength are bodyweight exercises such as push-ups, pull-ups, and dips. But are bodyweight exercises enough for the strength needed to compete in a boxing match? Wouldn't lifting weights be beneficial to your workout? Many old school trainers will say that lifting weights will pack on too much muscle and slow you down when you fight. But there are ways to lift weights that will benefit your body and improve your performance in the ring.

    Weights should be incorporated into every boxer's workout. Seventy-percent of your power comes from your legs. To achieve powerful legs you must do exercises like squats, deadlifts, and leg presses. These exercises will give you strong calves which will help immensly in the ring. You also need a lot of leg strength to carry you around the ring. Having weak legs will make you more likely to be knocked down when hit by a hard punch. You should also do a lot of chest work and work on your arms especially your biceps and triceps. Your biceps and triceps are used to throw your punches out and pull them back in. They are also useful for clinches. Your abdominal muscles should also be worked with weights. Strong abdominal muscles are one of the most important things a fighter needs to win. Exercises like situps and crunches used with weights will make abs much stronger and your ability to take a punch will improve.

    Strength is huge advantage in the ring and it allows to you to control the pace of the fight. Some trainers argue that packing on muscle from weightlifting will affect your coordination and reflexes because your body will be heavier and slower. This is incorrect because by dieting correctly and lifting light to moderate weights you can strip a couple of pounds of fat and tighten up your muscles which will increase your strength. However weightlifting should not be the core of a boxer's workout. The core of your workout should consist of cardio exercises like shadow boxing, jump roping, hittng the heavy bag, and jogging. If you do cardio in addition to the weightlifting then you will not become slower. All that cardio should keep you real lean with a low bodyfat percentage. Your speed and strength will improve and you will be a much tougher competitor in the ring.

    Not using weights for boxing training comes from old school training method that many trainers today still follow. Most of the top professional fighters strength train with weights. However you should not train like a bodybuilder. Having big steroid type muscles are not going to do very much for you in the ring. You should lift moderate to light weight which will increase your strength but not bulk you up too much. All of your focus should go into what will help you win and not what looks good. The bottom line is that you should weightlift to increase strength and not weightlift to increase your bodyweight.



    Just came across this article and felt it was a decent easy read for beginners with some questions.

    Feel free to add things on, clear things up, or correct some mistakes or misconceptions in the post.

    #2
    Somehow people forget to realize that pull up is a weight training exercise, even if it's just your own bodyweight.

    Anyway, I am all for it -- olympic lifts, power lifts and some less conventional exercises will do wonders for a fighter. I understand the thinking against arm flexor exercises like biceps curls(although there is a place for that exercise as well) since it will kill the flexibility of the arm, but if you know whats good for you you will never avoid deadlifts, squats of all forms, various pulling exercises and stuff like snatches.

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      #3
      Originally posted by BrooklynBomber View Post
      Somehow people forget to realize that pull up is a weight training exercise, even if it's just your own bodyweight.

      Anyway, I am all for it -- olympic lifts, power lifts and some less conventional exercises will do wonders for a fighter. I understand the thinking against arm flexor exercises like biceps curls(although there is a place for that exercise as well) since it will kill the flexibility of the arm, but if you know whats good for you you will never avoid deadlifts, squats of all forms, various pulling exercises and stuff like snatches.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Danny Gunz View Post
        To achieve powerful legs you must do exercises like squats, deadlifts, and leg presses.
        Hogwash. Some of the most powerful fighters in history never trained with weights. God has never made a harder hitter than Sonny Liston, or a fighter with better leg endurance than Muhammad Ali; neither trained with weights.

        Not saying that weights aren't beneficial, they can be; but to say that weight training is necessary to achieve powerful legs is simply misleading and wrong.

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          #5
          sprinting, sprinting up hill, sprintin on your bike up hill, sprinting on your bike, sprinting down hill, running, jogging, walking, punching, and jumping to name a few can all build much better calves then dead lifts, squatting, and the leg press.

          theres a million and a half ways to do situps if you need to add weights then either your half assing the sit up or youve never heard of leverage.

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            #6
            Completely agreed. Like i have been saying for a long time in this section, people tend to associate weight lifting with body building.

            Sure body building and boxing don't go very well together, but when you lift weights for strength purposes it becomes a completely different story.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Equilibrium View Post
              Completely agreed. Like i have been saying for a long time in this section, people tend to associate weight lifting with body building.

              Sure body building and boxing don't go very well together, but when you lift weights for strength purposes it becomes a completely different story.
              is that the story where the guy was so exhausted from lifting weights 3 times a week that he cut his jogging back from 6 miles to 2 miles and only goes to the boxing gym twice a week instead of 4 times?

              thus sacraficing technique and stamina for alittle bit of strength...

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                #8
                Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
                is that the story where the guy was so exhausted from lifting weights 3 times a week that he cut his jogging back from 6 miles to 2 miles and only goes to the boxing gym twice a week instead of 4 times?

                thus sacraficing technique and stamina for alittle bit of strength...
                I think your missing the point....

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Danny Gunz View Post
                  I think your missing the point....
                  your point would be? that weight liftting is better then not weight lifting?

                  that would be wrong for many reasons.

                  1. wight lifting takes energy that you could be using for actual boxing related activities. (alittle strength isnt going to beat good technique)

                  2. weight lifting takes energy taht you could be using for endurance and stamina training. ( whats the use in a little strength if you cant move or hold your hands up)

                  3. many weight lifting exercises use more muscles then just the one your trying to isolate, not just building up muscles but building up useless muscles.

                  4. with compond exercises and weight lifting diffrent weights would be required for diffrent muscles to get the proper exercise. since you do compound movements the muscles your focusing on are going to be built the way you want but the support muscles that are also involved in the lift and have no need to even be worked except for the lift may very well be just getting bigger with out actually getting stronger while neither of which is really needed.

                  5. working extra muscles means that your body has to recover and repair extra muscles greatly reducing your rate of recovery.

                  as just a few reasons as why not to weight lift even if you know exactlly what your are doing.

                  the only weights any one should ever lift are for shrugs as they isolate the neck shoulders back and serratus anterior muscles (nothing useless) and you can do **** loads of them working endurance and speed (avoiding only hypertropy in any of the included muscles).

                  plus shrugs are a very important part of removing the worthless push up from your rountine as it provides an excelent isolation of the serratus anterior which working that and the intercostals are the only purpose for push ups, thus alllowing you to avoid worthless hypertrophy in the sternal head of the pectorals major and worthless hypertrophy in the biceps.
                  Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 08-06-2010, 01:00 AM.

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                    #10
                    Oh lord here we go.

                    Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
                    your point would be? that weight liftting is better then not weight lifting?

                    that would be wrong for many reasons.
                    My point is weightlifting in boxing can be much more beneficial in boxing then not weightlifting.

                    1. wight lifting takes energy that you could be using for actual boxing related activities. (alittle strength isnt going to beat good technique)

                    2. weight lifting takes energy taht you could be using for endurance and stamina training. ( whats the use in a little strength if you cant move or hold your hands up)
                    Weightlifting and boxing exercises co exist. Yes stamina and technique is important but so is the benefits of weightlifting, explosiveness, strength, and *gasp* speed.

                    3. many weight lifting exercises use more muscles then just the one your trying to isolate, not just building up muscles but building up useless muscles.
                    This is just a ****** thing to say. There are plenty of isolation exercises if this is a problem for you. Even though I have a hard time calling any muscle useless.

                    4. with compond exercises and weight lifting diffrent weights would be required for diffrent muscles to get the proper exercise. since you do compound movements the muscles your focusing on are going to be built the way you want but the support muscles that are also involved in the lift and have no need to even be worked except for the lift may very well be just getting bigger with out actually getting stronger while neither of which is really needed.
                    I dont understand what you are trying to say here.

                    5. working extra muscles means that your body has to recover and repair extra muscles greatly reducing your rate of recovery.
                    If you properly train and cycle your workout recovery should not be a problem.

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