Weaves

[mr.thraz]

my old trainer used to make me do the duck walk for that.

[mrboxer]

What exercises do you guys do to get your weaves even faster? Aside from tying a rope across the ring and having bob and weave drills. I like to put on my 30lb weighted vest and try doing squats as low and fast as possible.

Anything else you guys do?

i really dont like the weave style look at frazier he used the weave style and he got clobbered

[bklynboy]

i really dont like the weave style look at frazier he used the weave style and he got clobbered

You should take a look at some of his fights with Ali. Ali, I'm told was a pretty good boxer, with decent hand speed and known to be very accurate. Watch him miss jab, after jab, against a bobbing and weaving Joe Frazier.

Frazier lost to only two men: Ali and Foreman, both ATGs.

Weaving style in heavyweight history:

Dempsey
Marciano
Frazier
Tyson

It's a good style for a short guy with short arms, lots of stamina and good pop in his hands.

[mrboxer]

You should take a look at some of his fights with Ali. Ali, I'm told was a pretty good boxer, with decent hand speed and known to be very accurate. Watch him miss jab, after jab, against a bobbing and weaving Joe Frazier.

Frazier lost to only two men: Ali and Foreman, both ATGs.

Weaving style in heavyweight history:

Dempsey
Marciano
Frazier
Tyson

It's a good style for a short guy with short arms, lots of stamina and good pop in his hands.

you should watch the fight against foreman where he got upper cutted at will

[bklynboy]

you should watch the fight against foreman where he got upper cutted at will

No doubt: "down goes Frazier." The fact that he matched-up terribly against Foreman doesn't mean Frazier was a bad fighter or that bobbing-and-weaving is a bad technique to have.

Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier and Tyson were all pretty good fighters. They're all TOP 20 heavyweights and a case can be made for each of them to be in the TOP 10.

They used the bob-and-weave very effectively. That doesn't mean it you never get hit, nor does it mean that you never lose -- and most importantly it doesn't mean that everyone who uses the bob-and-weave turns into an ATG.

What would you recommend for small, short-armed heavies like Frazier and Tyson? They can't sit on the outside and jab; they have to come; slip the jab and BAM the body and the come to the head before their opponent can angle away.