New Guy

[KingDosia]

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I suppose you have noticed that video trailer in NJFighter91's signature. Tyson learned how to set up that lefthook through many thousands of hours of practise under the tutlage of the great Cus D'Amato. If you have talent, you can go a long way by training yourself, but there are limits, and there is no substitute for a good trainer. Kenny Weldon has a great series of videos, You Can Learn To Box. Joe Frazier's book, Boxing Like The Pros, will also give you some guidelines. Sadly books and videos will only get you through the first stage. Nevertheless, if you have talent, books and videos can get you prepared to walk into a gym and impress whomever you are hoping will back your career.

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Somehow I knew my statements wouild provoke you.

lol, no prob.

What I was trying to get at is it takes a great deal of time for a martial artist "and I'm not sure if this is good or bad in the long run" to reach that level where he is sparing an apponent in real time with fluid movement.

well, that may be true most of the time. however, most people in the style i practice, particularly in my branch, start sparring right away. and by sparring, i mean you hit and get hit. and it's definitely not a cooperative practice where we take turns being the attacker, etc.

I'm refering to From the very start, a novice boxer is taught to fight. He will learn to throw crisp jabs and straight right hands (assuming an orthodox fighter). The fundamentals will be stressed and practiced repeatedly until they become second nature. It is during this early learning period that fighters are instructed in a proper stance, covering up, footwork and throwing punches without telegraphing them. New fighters will quickly move to hitting the punch mitts, heavy bag and double end bag while practicing their punches.

same with what i do, which is why it get's called chinese boxing.

to the more traditional martial arts. Novices are usually taught to stand in a very impractical stance, which would leave them vulnerable and defenseless in a real world scenario. They are taught to punch from a low hand position, and usually introduced to an intricate blocking system that relies on specific strikes being thrown at the practitioner in order to respond with the appropriate defense. Rarely does a novice martial artist throw at strike at a target other than air, and his movements appear awkward and mechanical.

i agree, in general. however, this doesn't apply to me or the art i practice.

It is quite common for a boxing coach to throw “counter punches” while holding the mitts for a fighter.

funny, i do the same thing!

[QUOTE agree with you on the instructors, The same disease plagues boxing and there trainers. I am curious to know your disciplin. Most people will call Karate a marial art. Ive seen students destroyed by boxers, There stances and attacks seem futile and more harmful then helpful. I myself have ridiculed Kempo students in a couple of incounters there were some trouble makers from a studio near where I used to live. My point of view started in this thread probably didn't even belong here I had an argument with someone stating boxing can't be considered a martial art still in my minds foresight when I posted. I don't inted to ridicule or belittle martial artists. There is a reason they were developed. My point of view is in reference to there practicality in modern society][/QUOTE]

well, boxing is an art that can be used for self defence, and very effectively at that.

hey, i'll just PM you with a few details for some insight instead of taking up a lot of space on the forum here.