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    #21
    Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
    I think everyone in this section is well aware of Baer and the power he packed in that right hand. Its just we are talking about some seriously heavy hitters here.

    Its Tyson all the way for me, a Chunky thick set guy with violence in his blood who threw his shots with bad intentions and full commitment as well as perfect form.

    Wlad at two. I think he could be more devastating than them all but he has to much fear and caution in him, he doesnt commit to his punches. He doesnt let them go with the type of malice that Dempsey and Tyson did. Excellent form though and great natural punching power and size too.
    Don't be too sure :-).

    I think that the discussion is getting a bit random here, everyone is talking about something different.

    IMO

    The guy who *landed* the hardest punches is Tyson, Baer and Dempsey are not far IMO, but Baer didnt land as much (in other words he is a lower caliber of fighter, much less effective and had "super power" only in one hand).

    Wlad is the one who *could have landed* the hardest shots, but he understandably fights safety first (and who wouldnt? with that chin and that stamina...)

    p4p it's clearly langford, but at HW he doesnt belong.

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      #22
      Originally posted by wmute View Post
      Don't be too sure :-).

      I think that the discussion is getting a bit random here, everyone is talking about something different.

      IMO

      The guy who *landed* the hardest punches is Tyson, Baer and Dempsey are not far IMO, but Baer didnt land as much (in other words he is a lower caliber of fighter, much less effective and had "super power" only in one hand).

      Wlad is the one who *could have landed* the hardest shots, but he understandably fights safety first (and who wouldnt? with that chin and that stamina...)

      p4p it's clearly langford, but at HW he doesnt belong.
      Yeah i think id agree with ur assessment.

      Wlad bores me something rotten but i guess i cant blame him, its the smart thing to do.

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        #23
        I'll go with Tyson. Baer and Wlad could generate more power in their right hands than Tyson could any punch, but Tyson could hurt you/take you out with any punch he threw....and he had a better delivery system than both.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
          It has to be Tyson or Dempsey. These guys knocked out other fighters with both hands and every punch, single punches and and in devastating combinations to head and body.

          Langford has a great record but I doubt that he would match either of these two in scientific tests for power.

          Baer may well have had a heavier right hand than Dempsey or Tyson, but overall he would be shaded for power with the other punches in their respective arsenals.

          Wlad may well also have a heavier right hand (his left hook might be equal too!) than Tyson or Dempsey, but he has no uppercuts to speak of.......and his fighting style hardly promotes the 'big puncher' mentality.
          If Wlad is in this discussion than Lennox Lewis needs to be included too.

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            #25
            Originally posted by McGoorty View Post
            Langford and Dempsey and Tyson are smaller, but those 3 were real punchers, Sam may be the P4P best but I'd say that Dempsey was the best P4P puncher, but I don't suppose that is what the question is about. Tyson hit heavier than those two much smaller guys and he is a bit shorter and maybe a bit lighter than Baer who I rate above Wlad. Max hit with venom but without the snap of Tyson or Dempsey, Wlad has neither the snap or venom of the other four. So because Tyson was fairly heavy and he had snap and venom and HATE..-------- I'm going for Tyson..... but as I said I think Dempsey was a total killer in the ring, and in his prime he would have completely annihilated the much taller and heavier Baer.
            Wlad has plenty of snap to his punches. In fact it's one of his best traits IMO.

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              #26
              Originally posted by New England View Post
              another terrific post

              tyson also threw combinations and body punches, uppercuts, overhand rights, etc.
              whereas wlad is largely a one punch type headhunter when he's not simply using the jab
              he's basically got that big right hand and that's it. the hook almost never comes behind it, at least not for literally the first eight or nine rounds, even though it is a huge punch that can knock a man out.

              setting up your punches and picking the right ones is invariably more important in boxing than simply punching hard,
              and tyson is the best on the list at doing that as well

              if you walk into one (or even worse, punch your way into one) that you cant see, you're in rough shape. your opponent doesn't even have to have a ton of brute power if he can make you run into one



              unless you're on the heavybag or whatnot
              then i agree
              probably wladimir hits the hardest with that right hand of his.
              Even punch for punch I'd have to give the slight edge to Tyson over Wlad, and that's not taking into account his combinations or the greater variety and aggression of his offence. Wlad's a sharp puncher, but I don't see his punches having the same general effect on his opponents as Tyson's did. Even glancing blows from Tyson seemed to affect fighters; when he hit opponents flush it was more often than not lights out. Wlad's punches seem to sting you and wear you down psychologically over the course of the fight, though he's definitely capable of bonafide knockouts as evidenced by the Chambers bout.
              Last edited by nomadman; 09-21-2011, 04:26 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                Did someone say Tyson had a slight speed advantage over Wlad? SLIGHT? Come on man. If you can't find at least a hundred Heavyweights faster than Wlad then you either aren't trying or have only been watching boxing for about 5 to 10 years.
                That was me and I stand by my comment. Wlad's hands are anything but slow.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
                  That was me and I stand by my comment. Wlad's hands are anything but slow.
                  :hahahaha9::hahahaha9::hahahaha9::hahahaha9:

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
                    That was me and I stand by my comment. Wlad's hands are anything but slow.
                    I've seen statues with faster hands than Wladsquatch.

                    Poet

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                      :hahahaha9::hahahaha9::hahahaha9::hahahaha9:
                      Do you have something constructive to bring to the discussion?

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