Jack Dempsey against Rocky Marciano

[travestyny]

In my entire time of being a boxing fan I have always said that Dempsey was scared of Langford in 1916.

All I asked was for you to answer the question. You admit that he said he was scared and that's why he didn't fight him. No reason to go over this anymore. Your hero admit that the reason he didn't fight him was because he was scared. Case closed

You know who wasn't scared. The guy who stepped in to fight him at the time that Dempsey refused. And he was just as young with the same amount of fights as Dempsey at that time. Go look it up.

You aren't **** lmfao you asked me my opinion on something that I have openly said since before this thread was even made. Do you pat yourself on the back and call yourself a good boy when you eat all your peas?

I pat myself on the back when an emotional moron like you comes in swinging for the fences, hitting only air, and has to go sit his ass back down in a corner. You're going to feel like that a lot when we go through all of these questions.

Jeannette never challenged Dempsey. What Dempsey said was that Jeannette appeared unannounced at one of Dempsey's fights and said he'd fight when he found out that Kearns wouldn't allow it. "LET'S GO CHAMP!"

You think Klitschko ducked Briggs too? That he "ran him out of the gym"

First of all, you claim to be an expert on Dempsey when you knew NOTHING about this situation before I told you about it. You went tooth and nail with me trying to say it happened in Philly when I first brought it up....BECAUSE YOU CAN'T READ. As you've shown time and time again. Really, it's time for you to go get your GED!

Jeannette was there for a fight just like Dempsey was there for a fight. Both of their opponents didn't show up. Jeannette challenged Dempsey, Dempsey declined, he was destroyed by the crowed, he tucked tail and walked off. How about you have it in Dempsey's words.

“They Call Me a Bum
by Jack Dempsey as told to John B. Kennedy (September 1925)


Jeannette paced the ring like a black angel of destructions, snorting challenge at the amazed white man. The crowd roared cheers at the Negro and emptied its fifteen thousand throats in jibes at Dempsey. Kearns, perfumed and peeved, bobbed about the press seats, strenuously arguing that Dempsey had offered his services gratis to fight a Caucasian named Bond: that he would fight none other.

The hissing of ten thousand serpents singed Dempsey‟s ears. The Negro‟s lips curled over shining teeth. Dempsey sprang from his chair for the ring, but a lavender-cuffed hand of Kearns restrained him. “You stay put,” Kearns barked as shrieks of “Quitter!” “Big bum!” “Yeller dog!” issued from the smoke clouds in the galleries.

Dempsey glowered, black-browed, flushed, a dumb giant stung by mocking wasps. Those nearest him understood, sympathized. If he went into the ring with Jeannette, one lucky punch might spoil his career.

“Sit tight, Jack,” I advised him. “Box Bond or nobody.”

He thrust a bandaged hand into mine. “I'll fight any white man they put on,” he growled huskily, “but I didn't agree to fight a colored boy.”

As Jeannette leered and the mob howled, he writhed. But between him and the ring stood the slim figure of Kearns. Twenty minutes of screaming and hissing ensued. Then Dempsey, head bowed, was led away.

“I remember all that,” said Dempsey, the champion, “and many other things I‟d like to forget.

Soooooo. Dempsey would fight ANY white man there, but not a "black boy" according to his own article, huh?????


I believe this was the question:

2. Did Dempsey admit that Jeannette challenged him and that he declined. YES OR NO?


Waiting for your response

[QueensburyRules]

--- Jeanette was at the end of his career by then.

He had already been mullered in Paris for the French sanctioned heavyweight title
stripped off JJOHNSON who had quit on his stool against Battling Johnson.

Dempsey had a contract that the promoter failed to fulfill. End of sweetie. Their primes never jibed, but wills' did and it cost jack a million bucks and his promoter and manager to make that fight, so read it and weep your sissy tears...

[travestyny]

--- Jeanette was at the end of his career by then.

He had already been mullered in Paris for the French sanctioned heavyweight title
stripped off JJOHNSON who had quit on his stool against Battling Johnson.

Again, you are sidestepping. I saw Dempsey saying he will fight ANY white man, but not fight a black man. And the crowed dug into him for it. And he acknowledged it. That was my point, and I think I've backed that up...with Dempsey's own article.

Dempsey had a contract that the promoter failed to fulfill. End of sweetie. Their primes never jibed, but wills' did and it cost jack a million bucks and his promoter and manager to make that fight, so read it and weep your sissy tears...

You are blatantly ducking yet again. Dempsey broke the contract before the first payment was to be received. If he wanted to fight Wills since 1919, as he stated, then why did he break this contract? The proof is staring you right in the face and you refuse to acknowledge it. The court agreed that he had a contract that he BROKE. There is nothing that you can say that changes that FACT.

Deflecting to your crying instead of looking at the facts. It's clear who is crying about this

When you get some facts that dispute my facts, come back, you hear. I think I'll be waiting a long time

The Court:

We are unable to conceive upon what theory the defendant could contend that there was no contract, as it appears to be admitted in the proceeding here and bears his signature and the amounts involved are sufficiently large to have created a rather lasting impression on the mind of anyone signing such an agreement

[QueensburyRules]

--- Jeanette was at the end of his career by then.

He had already been mullered in Paris for the French sanctioned heavyweight title
stripped off JJOHNSON who had quit on his stool against Battling Johnson.

Dempsey had a contract that the promoter failed to fulfill. End of sweetie. Their primes never jibed, but wills' did and it cost jack a million bucks and his promoter and manager to make that fight, so read it and weep your sissy tears...

[QueensburyRules]

--- Jeanette was at the end of his career by then.

He had already been mullered in Paris for the French sanctioned heavyweight title
stripped off JJOHNSON who had quit on his stool against Battling Johnson.

Dempsey had a contract that the promoter failed to fulfill. End of sweetie. Their primes never jibed, but wills' did and it cost jack a million bucks and his promoter and manager to make that fight, so read it and weep your sissy tears...

[travestyny]

--- Jeanette was at the end of his career by then.

He had already been mullered in Paris for the French sanctioned heavyweight title
stripped off JJOHNSON who had quit on his stool against Battling Johnson.

Dempsey had a contract that the promoter failed to fulfill. End of sweetie. Their primes never jibed, but wills' did and it cost jack a million bucks and his promoter and manager to make that fight, so read it and weep your sissy tears...

You already said this. You going broken record on me now?


And I already said this:

We are unable to conceive upon what theory the defendant could contend that there was no contract, as it appears to be admitted in the proceeding here and bears his signature and the amounts involved are sufficiently large to have created a rather lasting impression on the mind of anyone signing such an agreement

Question: Did the court find that Dempsey broke a contract to fight Wills, like I've said. Yes or no?

I'll await your reply

[travestyny]

--- Jeanette was at the end of his career by then.

He had already been mullered in Paris for the French sanctioned heavyweight title
stripped off JJOHNSON who had quit on his stool against Battling Johnson.

Dempsey had a contract that the promoter failed to fulfill. End of sweetie. Their primes never jibed, but wills' did and it cost jack a million bucks and his promoter and manager to make that fight, so read it and weep your sissy tears...

--- Jeanette was at the end of his career by then.

He had already been mullered in Paris for the French sanctioned heavyweight title
stripped off JJOHNSON who had quit on his stool against Battling Johnson.

Dempsey had a contract that the promoter failed to fulfill. End of sweetie. Their primes never jibed, but wills' did and it cost jack a million bucks and his promoter and manager to make that fight, so read it and weep your sissy tears...

--- Jeanette was at the end of his career by then.

He had already been mullered in Paris for the French sanctioned heavyweight title
stripped off JJOHNSON who had quit on his stool against Battling Johnson.

Dempsey had a contract that the promoter failed to fulfill. End of sweetie. Their primes never jibed, but wills' did and it cost jack a million bucks and his promoter and manager to make that fight, so read it and weep your sissy tears...

LMAO. I broke another one.


Who's next?

[QueensburyRules]

--- my phone froze up sweetie, hence the replicates.

First off, sounds like your source is Kearns who carried a grudge against Jack for leaving him. Kearns has been disproven over the years.

As far as the wills contract judgement, did Jack pay damages or was it overturned? Clearly the fight signed twice but unable to atract financing, hardly the fighters fault.

Do you deny Wills declined to fight Tunney for the right to fight Dempsey? I don't blame him or Jack as both had been thoroughly screwed by then.

Do you deny jack fought other black fighters coming up, but had little control over his career until leaving Kearns and Rickard? Anyone who knows Dempsey knows he would fight anyone?

Did you know he was reputed to have KOed JJOHNSON after his release from prison?

I Thought Not!

[travestyny]

--- my phone froze up sweetie, hence the replicates.

That's fair. Then I apologize for making fun of that. But um....you can chill with that "sweetie" talk.

First off, sounds like your source is Kearns who carried a grudge against Jack for leaving him. Kearns has been disproven over the years.

What?????? My source is Kearns for what? The article is by JACK DEMPSEY. NOT Kearns. Again, it's right in front of your face.

As far as the wills contract judgement, did Jack pay damages or was it overturned? Clearly the fight signed twice but unable to atract financing, hardly the fighters fault.

The court found that he was responsible for nominal damages. But you didn't answer the question. Did the court find that he broke the contract?

Do you deny Wills declined to fight Tunney for the right to fight Dempsey? I don't blame him or Jack as both had been thoroughly screwed by then.

No, I don't deny it. Why should I? Dempsey went on record saying he wanted to fight Wills since 1919. He had a valid contract to do so and Dempsey broke it.

Do you deny jack fought other black fighters coming up, but had little control over his career until leaving Kearns and Rickard? Anyone who knows Dempsey knows he would fight anyone?

He fought, what, two black guys? The last one broke three of his ribs and Dempsey got what some called a gift draw. Dempsey himself believed he lost, and he never fought a black man again.

That Dempsey would have fought anyone is a lie. He drew the color-line twice, he refused to fight Wills when a contract was signed for it. He had a chance to fight Jeannette but he declined saying, "I'll fight any white man, but I won't fight a colored boy." So there you go.

Did you know he was reputed to have KOed JJOHNSON after his release from prison?
I Thought Not!

LMAOOOOOO. HE WASN'T GOING ANYWHERE NEAR JJOHNSON AFTER JOHNSON WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON. GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR BULLSHlT.

...And Ali was reputed to KO Superman


Oh, and now that I answered all of your questions. Please answer mine:

Did the court find that Dempsey BROKE that contract? Still waiting....

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Read it closely ******. The quotation that was said to be in his autobiography.........is in his autobiography.

You are dumb as bricks and you continue to embarrass yourself.

I ****ing own the autobiography you dense mother****er, it's nowhere in it.